3.5 years on TRT and feeling no effects. Time to give up?

[Rain27]

Not clomid ?

 

[Lonestar71]

And dang I miss my Libido! MIA for 4++ years!

 

[Lonestar71]

Clomid was last year.

 

[Rain27]

How you feel hcg alone

 

[Lonestar71]

It's been about three weeks and I feel OK. Still feeling indifferent on every topic of my life but that's been the norm for years......Still looking for relief.

 

[Rain27]

Some problem estrogen?

 

[Lonestar71]

Here are my labs from 2019-Sept before switching to the cream.

Attached

 

[Rain27]

Is results in hcg alone?

 

[Lonestar71]

These labs were both T and HCG..... .45ml twice a week and the 500IU HCG 3x a week.

 

[Rain27]

Ok !! Labs thi hcg alone?

 

[Rain27]

Your labs is perfect!!!

 

[Lonestar71]

Not feeling it!

 

[JV63]

Not feeling it!

Not that it would possibly help everything, but have you had your B12 levels tested?
Elevated MCV and MCHC can be a signal of lower B12.

 

[S1W]

Not feeling it!

Since it doesn't look like it has been said yet: Have you tried running higher numbers?

If my FT were a hair above 20, I don't think I'd be getting much out of TRT either. When FT is in upper 20s/low 30s is when I start to see benefits.

Also, why did you start TRT in the first place - what specific issues were you hoping it would address?

 

[wondering]

And dang I miss my Libido! MIA for 4++ years!

Mine has been absent for 23 years. It sucks.

 

[sh1973]

Trt definitely kills libido in a good number of men. I’ve seen it too many times and talked to several men stating the same.

 

[Gman86]

Trt definitely kills libido in a good number of men. I’ve seen it too many times and talked to several men stating the same.

Nelson Vergel himself reports that he’s basically asexual without HCG

 

[M.J]

I’d be curious to know this as well

I am currently on 500 hcg eod. And I feel much better than my testosterone protocol. Which I stopped earlier.

the thing is hcg used to work and not work I don’t know why but the last two weeks It was consistently working not sure why but these could be the reason:
1- when I mix hcg I used not to shake it so I rotate the bottle slowly. And when injecting the water inside just press on it.
But now I am super super gentle very gentle don’t even rotate it just move slowly to mix them and when I inject I let it drop down slowly and not just press quickly.

also I take vitamin k2, vitamin d, lysin, vitamin c and iron (to restore my irons level) not sure if they help if they do it could be k2 or vitamin c will check this later if it continues working.

I 100% convinced that hcg alone is more than enough if your leydig cell is still working.

no hematocrit issue, all hormone goes up smoothly not only testosterone. I only hope to see this continues (it’s been almost two successful week) and hope my leydig cell continue working.

my normal T is around 10 with hcg I reach 17. Which is good.

 

[M.J]

I also think there is a potential in clomid I did 25mg EOD and morning wood didn’t stop. Now I am testing if I take like once or two a week to see if it actually help a bit with hcg

 

[M.J]

Not clomid ?

Clomid gave me good morning wood as it increased my T , leydig cell seems working still but libido is an issue with clomid.