Treatments that may increase sex drive in women

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Nelson Vergel

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Two randomized controlled trials examined the effect of testosterone on postmenopausal women with HSDD. One trial randomized 272 women ages 40 to 70 years to a 300-mcg transdermal testosterone patch (TTP; 142 women) or placebo (130 women).1 At 6 months, women using the TTP reported more sexually satisfying episodes (1.69 vs 0.59 episodes in 4 weeks;P=.0089) and a minimal increase in sexual desire scores (12.2 vs 4.56 on a 100-point sexual desire scale; P=.0007) compared with women using placebo.

A second trial randomized 814 postmenopausal women (mean age 54.2 years) to placebo (277 women), a 150-mcg TTP (267 women), or a 300-mcg TTP (270 women).2 At 24 weeks, women taking 300 mcg (but not 150 mcg) of testosterone reported a greater number of satisfying sexual episodes than women taking placebo (2.1 vs 0.7; P<.0001). The 300-mcg TTP caused more unwanted hair growth than placebo (19.9% vs 10.5%; no P value given). The study didn't continue long enough to assess cardiovascular risks.


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Source:

Which treatments help women with reduced libido?
J Fam Pract. 2013 February;62(2):102-103.
Keia Hobbs, MD

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Carlos

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I will like to have more information on this topic. Specially on how to raise libido and sexual desire on women. In this case over 55 years old.
 
We compound a transdermal product called Scream Cream that's applied clitorally that contains testosterone along with 6 other prescription vasodilators and blood flow enhancers. We've been making it for the past 3 years with great results from our patients.
 
Does that product increase size? If so or if you could formulate one there is quite a market for transgender males and possibly women as well. Would love to know..thank you!
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
Hey Broosky, Scream Cream is intended for clitoral use only. Some male patients have tried it before with no effect.


What it the application protocol.

I can't see how this would help as an ondemand dosage like Viagra...Testosterone doesn't work on libido like that...takes a while to build up serum levels.

Also, if applied before sex I can see problems with oral sex...or maybe not LOL?
 
what is the best way to order this? my friend is interested but her dr isn't very open minded.

also transmen are differnet then "cisgender" males. so hence my asking about clitoral enlargement.. and Gene good question about oral sex..important to know- how long after application is it ok for someone to orally in that area?
 

Gene Devine

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what is the best way to order this? my friend is interested but her dr isn't very open minded.

also transmen are differnet then "cisgender" males. so hence my asking about clitoral enlargement.. and Gene good question about oral sex..important to know- how long after application is it ok for someone to orally in that area?


Contact Defy Medical they have similar formulation as well.

The will answer your questions and can get it to your friend pretty easily
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
You need and Rx for all of these products but Defy makes it easy.

Just give them a call and they will help you if you're really interested.

Most good Anti Aging Doc's have this type of formula for ladies...it's not as new as you'd think.
 
thank you Gene
only issue is .. limited funds and Kaiser for my friend.. so as you know Kaiser does not have antiaging drs.. and alot of folks can't afford anti aging drs.. i used to be able to but not anymore- so us poor kids dont get to play..
i am saving my pennies to order more amp-5 and lipo c from defy.. despite it being on sale it is still expensive for me. i spend about $600 a month on supliments and i still keep getting really sick.. and this is after 10k in anti aging dr's ! .. obviously i did something wrong.
 

Nelson Vergel

Founder, ExcelMale.com
Increasing Women's Sexual Desire: The Comparative Effectiveness of Estrogens and Androgens

Highlights
· Hormone therapies for low sexual desire in postmenopausal women are reviewed.
· Estradiol, at periovulatory levels, increases sexual desire in postmenopausal women.
· Supraphysiological testosterone increases sexual desire in postmenopausal women.
· Physiological testosterone does not increase sexual desire in postmenopausal women.

Cappelletti M, Wallen K. Increasing women's sexual desire: The comparative effectiveness of estrogens and androgens. Horm Behav.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X15301677

Both estradiol and testosterone have been implicated as the steroid critical for modulating women's sexual desire.

By contrast, in all other female mammals only estradiol has been shown to be critical for female sexual motivation and behavior.

Pharmaceutical companies have invested heavily in the development of androgen therapies for female sexual desire disorders, but today there are still no FDA approved androgen therapies for women.

Nonetheless, testosterone is currently, and frequently, prescribed off-label for the treatment of low sexual desire in women, and the idea of testosterone as a cure-all for female sexual dysfunction remains popular.

This paper places the ongoing debate concerning the hormonal modulation of women's sexual desire within a historical context, and reviews controlled trials of estrogen and/or androgen therapies for low sexual desire in postmenopausal women.

These studies demonstrate that estrogen-only therapies that produce periovulatory levels of circulating estradiol increase sexual desire in postmenopausal women.

Testosterone at supraphysiological, but not at physiological, levels enhances the effectiveness of low-dose estrogen therapies at increasing women's sexual desire; however, the mechanism by which supraphysiological testosterone increases women's sexual desire in combination with an estrogen remains unknown.

Because effective therapies require supraphysiological amounts of testosterone, it remains unclear whether endogenous testosterone contributes to the modulation of women's sexual desire.

The likelihood that an androgen-only clinical treatment will meaningfully increase women's sexual desire is minimal, and the focus of pharmaceutical companies on the development of androgen therapies for the treatment of female sexual desire disorders is likely misplaced.
 

ratbag

Member
Testosterone at supraphysiological, but not at physiological, levels enhances the effectiveness of low-dose estrogen therapies at increasing women's sexual desire; however, the mechanism by which supraphysiological testosterone increases women's sexual desire in combination with an estrogen remains unknown.

Because effective therapies require supraphysiological amounts of testosterone, it remains unclear whether endogenous testosterone contributes to the modulation of women's sexual desire.

It would be interesting to know what the supraphysiological amounts of testosterone are because I suspect they think like most mainstream medicine MD's... in that a post meno woman's testosterone normal range is considered what they describe as their physiological testosterone level, which is not effective. But for men we know that you cannot just get your TT to mid range as determined by the average endocrinologist. We have to go much higher in order for it to work. So I believe they are interpreting this level to be a supraphysiological level of testosterone. So in short this is the same situation men face and why so many mainstream MD's freak when they see above range levels of testosterone in men. We are labelled as steroid abusers and we are doing it all wrong.

So I suspect for women it's the same thing as men and it works providing they have enough testosterone. It's amazing how mainstream medicine cannot get around the concept of higher ranges for hormones.
 

teatime44

New Member
Ok my wife and I have tried this with her injecting 1/10 of one ml of test prop every third day she is in her 50's and going through menopause. She experimented with this for 8 months and is now off for at least 4 months and then have tests done to see if everything is ok before resuming. She experience a giant surge in sex drive, hot flashes ceased and her monthly cycle ended within 2 months of starting the injections. She did see a minor size increase in her clitoris but her orgasms became much more intense and tripled in length. She began to have a great deal of desire for sex and her desires broadened in nature. She did also see a slight voice lowering and a small amount of hair growth begin near the end of the cycle and this seems to be reversing now that she has been off for over a month, unfortunately the hot flashes have resumed and her sex drive is once again almost gone.
I believe test prop which is water based test works best and in very small doses without estrogen at least thats our experience. The key to this kind of trial is to keep the dosage minimal and use water based test so if side effect do occur the test will clear the system very quickly if the cycle is ended. I recommend doing a great deal of research before trying this as if the dosage is too high for too long the side effects may be irreversible. Also if you are able use a medical professional throughout the trial if possible.
 

blackebob

Member
I have been giving 20mg of Cyp once a week to my wife for three months now per the Dr. She is not forthcoming with her feelings or thoughts about it, but lets just say I am reaping the reward pretty much everyday.
 

Vince

Super Moderator
Is supplementing DHEA also a good way to increase libido in post men.. women and if so how much would be safe?
I supplement with DHEA to keep my levels in the normal range, if your levels get too high you will convert more testosterone into estrogen.
 
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