Response from LabCorp About Their Incorrect Unit Usages For Their Free Testosterone - Direct - Test

[Nelson Vergel]

Someone else complaining about this issue:

Did LabCorp Mess Up My Results?

A little background info… 26 years old, feel like shit most of the time. I work out 2-3 a week, have a stable job, am in school, but something doesn’t feel quite “right” (all the symptoms of low-t… fatigue, lethargy, don’t really care about anything, anxiety, fear of life, of doing things...

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[jacb]

That is debatable. Free testosterone is NOT fully proportional to T dose. As dose increases, the relative increase of free T is larger due to decreases in SHBG.

OK so best to disregard the LabCorp Free T‘ result and calculate the Free T‘ using, Total T’, SHBG and Albumin from the same group of tests. That in turn raises issues since the online Free T’ calculators seem to come up with different Free T’ values for the same input!

Which online calculator do you favour?

EG Balance My Hormones, Tru-t etc etc?

 

[Cataceous]

That is debatable. Free testosterone is NOT fully proportional to T dose. As dose increases, the relative increase of free T is larger due to decreases in SHBG.

Proportionality exists regardless of SHBG if one assumption is true: The law of mass action is the only significant driver of the consumption rate of testosterone. If this holds then the consumption rate is directly proportional to free testosterone. Clearly at steady state the dose rate on average must equal the consumption rate. Therefore free testosterone is directly proportional to dose rate.

It doesn't matter if SHBG drops with increasing dose. This affects the rate of increase of total testosterone, not free. Free testosterone must rise linearly with the dose.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Responses of different doses of testosterone injections on body composition, strength, etc. - Excel Male Health Forum

Comment: 125 mg per week was the lowest dose that provided statistically significant changes in lean body mass and fat mass. PAPER ATTACHED Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men. Bhasin S, et al. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Dec;281(6):E1172-81. Full paper...

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[Cataceous]

Responses of different doses of testosterone injections on body composition, strength, etc. - Excel Male Health Forum

Comment: 125 mg per week was the lowest dose that provided statistically significant changes in lean body mass and fat mass. PAPER ATTACHED Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men. Bhasin S, et al. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Dec;281(6):E1172-81. Full paper...

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Looks pretty linear.

 

[tareload]

Response from LabCorp About Their Incorrect Unit Usages For Their Free Testosterone - Direct - Test - Excel Male Health Forum

I've been irked for a year by the apparent incorrect unit usage for the particular Free Testosterone test mentioned above. I periodically reach out to whatever relevant executive I can find. No luck for months until the below correspondence. In brief his explanation doesn't hold up...

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See this post plus 5 links attached therein for some bedtime reading.

 

[aloetard]

LabCorp reports free testosterone that do not make sense even in their "direct" method that goes along with LC/MS.

070195: Testosterone, Free, Direct With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS

Labcorp test details for Testosterone, Free, Direct With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS

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Example:

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Free testosterone is around 2% of total testosterone.

In this example, Total Testosterone is 435.8 ng/dL

Two percent of that is 0.02 x 435.8 nd/dL= 8.72 ng/dL= 87.2 pg/mL (units used for free T)

His Free T was reported as 16 pg/mL which is absurd.

Here is an example from Quest (for this test Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable and Total (Upper Limit T 1,500 ng/dL) plus SHBG)


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This is the total Testosterone by LC/MS and free T by dialysis

Search result for: 'testosterone-free-dialysis-and-total-ls-ms-ms'

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Quest has a reasonable range AND units.

I have emailed LabCorp several times about this but they ignore it. Dr Saya has done the same thing.

Definitive explanation if you are interested...

A Cautionary Tale... - Page 3 - Excel Male Health Forum

TLDR: I fucked up my hormones because I didn't listen to everyone on the site, and now I'm paying the price. Stay away from hormone treatments if not medically necessary. Hi Everyone, I'm here to post a follow up to two posts I made a couple of years back as a cautionary tale...

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Example in goriest of details....

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The Most Respected Testosterone TRT Men's Health Forum Since 2013

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In particular see part II for Labcorb direct FT assay.

If in 100 years 1 person reads this and it helps them understand the situation, then I did truly succeed.