Lowering Dose Side Effects

[Azza23]

Hi guys,

Would really appreciate your advice.

I took the advice of someone and bumped my weekly T dosage up to 250mg a week (MWF protocol). Needless to say I crashed and crashed hard. Started having panic attacks, intrusive thoughts, shocking sleep and bad sleep.

I took the advice of some of you fine gentlemen and ended up dropping down to 112mg a week (daily protocol). Ive been doing this for a week and have felt shocking (all the symptoms above and a couple more).

Question, how long can I expect to feel this bad? Have I gone about this the right way or should I have done the lowering of the dose more slowly?

TIA

 

[bixt]

I took the advice of someone and bumped my weekly T dosage up to 250mg a week

Danny bossa?

 

[Azza23]

Danny bossa?

Hahaha same circle

 

[Vince]

Hi guys,

Would really appreciate your advice.

I took the advice of someone and bumped my weekly T dosage up to 250mg a week (MWF protocol). Needless to say I crashed and crashed hard. Started having panic attacks, intrusive thoughts, shocking sleep and bad sleep.

I took the advice of some of you fine gentlemen and ended up dropping down to 112mg a week (daily protocol). Ive been doing this for a week and have felt shocking (all the symptoms above and a couple more).

Question, how long can I expect to feel this bad? Have I gone about this the right way or should I have done the lowering of the dose more slowly?

TIA

I wonder what your protocol was before you increase your dose to 250 mg?

It's going to take at least 6 weeks for your levels to come down and it may take up to 12 weeks before you feel the effect of your new dose.

 

[madman]

Hi guys,

Would really appreciate your advice.

I took the advice of someone and bumped my weekly T dosage up to 250mg a week (MWF protocol). Needless to say I crashed and crashed hard. Started having panic attacks, intrusive thoughts, shocking sleep and bad sleep.

I took the advice of some of you fine gentlemen and ended up dropping down to 112mg a week (daily protocol). Ive been doing this for a week and have felt shocking (all the symptoms above and a couple more).

Question, how long can I expect to feel this bad? Have I gone about this the right way or should I have done the lowering of the dose more slowly?

TIA

Not sure why you keep asking the same question.

This has been beaten to death on here.

We have already given you sound advice let alone you have been on the forum since 2018.

Dose Change Side Effects

Hi guys, I just switched to a daily protocol of 24mg after spending a few weeks on 100mg E3D. This E3D protocol kicked the shit out of me, I dont think I respond well to having so much T at one time. The anxiety and thoughts were nightmarish plus the lethagy is real. Is there anything that...

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How to lower dose and avoid side effects

Hi all, Just wondering if you can please provide some advice on lowering my T dose and minimise the side effects whilst doing so. I took some bad advice and having been doing 200mg every week (MWF). I believe it is causing me the current bout of anxiety, OCD and lethargy Im experiencing. I...

www.excelmale.com

 

[tareload]

@Azza23 please dude. Spend an hour of your time and review the links and links to links shared above. Get off that TOT Facebook site.

 

[bixt]

Get off that TOT Facebook site.

Its very easy to get off that Facebook group. Just correct any grossly incorrect infomation you find doled out and they ban you instantly.

You wont even find Bossa or the other head honchos commenting generally. Its rookies giving out the same old advice to other rookies.

 

[tareload]

Its very easy to get off that Facebook group. Just correct any grossly incorrect infomation you find doled out and they ban you instantly.

You wont even find Bossa or the other head honchos commenting generally. Its rookies giving out the same old advice to other rookies.

Thanks for the insight and never been there. Sounds like Amway pyramid scheme. I would not last very long.


Also see chain letters. Why the BS will never be extinguished.

 

[tareload]

Poor Danny...

I tried to teach him a little about PK math but he is treatment resistant. "You may need fT between 30 to 50 ng/dl!"

My favorite:

What is TRT and What is NOT TRT

Poor Danny, 3:50 mark (dated Feb 2022)…“you can do this without labs.” Guys, get that bloodwork and regular heart surveillance (ECG, Echos) if you want to play TOT/TRT+. Find a doctor you trust and get appropriate, responsible medical care. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

forums.t-nation.com

"You can do this without labs."

 

[Azza23]

Not sure why you keep asking the same question.

This has been beaten to death on here.

We have already given you sound advice let alone you have been on the forum since 2018.

Dose Change Side Effects

Hi guys, I just switched to a daily protocol of 24mg after spending a few weeks on 100mg E3D. This E3D protocol kicked the shit out of me, I dont think I respond well to having so much T at one time. The anxiety and thoughts were nightmarish plus the lethagy is real. Is there anything that...

www.excelmale.com

How to lower dose and avoid side effects

Hi all, Just wondering if you can please provide some advice on lowering my T dose and minimise the side effects whilst doing so. I took some bad advice and having been doing 200mg every week (MWF). I believe it is causing me the current bout of anxiety, OCD and lethargy Im experiencing. I...

www.excelmale.com

Im sorry mate, but when someone who is considered an expert (self-confessed I believe now) tells you that you will feel amazing on a much higher dose you want to believe it. Not trying to waste people's time, I just want to be the best version of myself for me and my family.

 

[tareload]

Im sorry mate, but when someone who is considered an expert (self-confessed I believe now) tells you that you will feel amazing on a much higher dose you want to believe it. Not trying to waste people's time, I just want to be the best version of myself for me and my family.

Expert? Let me be as clear as I can...these guys you are running with...run from them as fast as you can.

 

[Azza23]

Expert? Let me be as clear as I can...these guys you are running with...run from them as fast as you can.

Yeah I know that now.

This experience has put me back on SSRis and for the first time ever benzos to get through the day until I am stable on this new dose. Like I said, Im sorry that I asked the same question I did a while ago, but when you feel the way I do, you want an easy answer and silver bullet. Im so exhausted mate

 

[Fortunate]

Yeah I know that now.

This experience has put me back on SSRis and for the first time ever benzos to get through the day until I am stable on this new dose. Like I said, Im sorry that I asked the same question I did a while ago, but when you feel the way I do, you want an easy answer and silver bullet. Im so exhausted mate

I have learned through observation that what you are experiencing at the moment is not just a reflection of what you are currently doing, but what you did for the past few weeks. It's another way of saying what others above already stated (that it can take six weeks for levels to stabilize and longer for adaptions to occur, etc.).

Just keep this in mind before you judge your current protocol. 100-ish/week seems reasonable, and you may need to stick it out for a while. On the other hand, there are a lot of posts that show that guys are getting high levels even 5-7mg of test/day.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Hi guys,

Would really appreciate your advice.

I took the advice of someone and bumped my weekly T dosage up to 250mg a week (MWF protocol). Needless to say I crashed and crashed hard. Started having panic attacks, intrusive thoughts, shocking sleep and bad sleep.

I took the advice of some of you fine gentlemen and ended up dropping down to 112mg a week (daily protocol). Ive been doing this for a week and have felt shocking (all the symptoms above and a couple more).

Question, how long can I expect to feel this bad? Have I gone about this the right way or should I have done the lowering of the dose more slowly?

TIA

What is shocking sleep? And the other shocking you mentioned?

By the way, 10mg daily did me in pretty bad. I'm scarred for life from that. Doing fairly well on 5mg daily now.

 

[Azza23]

What is shocking sleep? And the other shocking you mentioned?

By the way, 10mg daily did me in pretty bad. I'm scarred for life from that. Doing fairly well on 5mg daily now.

35mg per week? How did 10mg a day hurt you?

 

[GreenMachineX]

35mg per week? How did 10mg a day hurt you?

No sleep for a month, crazy anxiety including tight chest and difficult to breathe. Went to ER and they found nothing wrong but I thought I was dying.

 

[Gianluca]

Question: how is your Pregnenolone, Progesterone and DHEA level? FT3? How high was your FT at 250mg weekly?

 

[GreenMachineX]

What is shocking sleep? And the other shocking you mentioned?

By the way, 10mg daily did me in pretty bad. I'm scarred for life from that. Doing fairly well on 5mg daily now.

35mg per week? How did 10mg a day hurt you?

What was the shocking you mentioned?

 

[Azza23]

What was the shocking you mentioned?

Just feeling really bad mate. OCD through the roof.

 

[Azza23]

Question: how is your Pregnenolone, Progesterone and DHEA level? FT3? How high was your FT at 250mg weekly?

Progesterone 3 nmol/l
E2 27pg/ml
SHBG 21
T 37.5 ( range 10 -35)
Free T 1126pmol/l (range 225 - 725

We cant get Pregnenolone tested in Australia