Enclomiphene source

Singh767

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Apologies if this is not allowed, but I am from UK and my specialist is happy for me me start Enclomiphene - But we don't know where to find it. Some people in this forum mentioned a pharmacy or 2, but when I type them into Google I cant find it; will someone be able to send me a direct link please? I assume most places will ship to UK.

Clomid Is causing me a lot of sides so I want to try this.
 

Singh767

New Member
Thanks, I've emailed them. If they say no what are my options, is there any other websites I can order it from from?
 

txmx

Member
Tailor Made seems to have it at this point. Empower does not seem to have it at this point.
 

seppuku

Member
I'm interested in how it goes if you're willing to share.

Now that you mention Indian brands I see there are quite a few. For example:
If they are legitimate it would be useful if AllDayChemist started carrying some.
Yes, no problem. This is the shop and item -
I'd read about it before but hadn't ordered because there was some debate as to whether or not it was actually just regular clomid. I found this from the shop above, on reddit, explaining what is meant by the description on the box -
https://www.reddit.com/r/sarmssourcetalk/comments/hx3m5c
I had trouble using a new bank app to make a transfer to the shop (it's based in the USA, i'm in the UK). But i'm going to have another go today some time.
 

seppuku

Member
Six packs of En-Clofert arrived in the post yesterday, first 12.5mg taken in the evening. I've not decided if i'm going to dose eod or daily yet, but i'll get labs done in a couple of weeks and see what it's doing.
 

tLearner

New Member
Six packs of En-Clofert arrived in the post yesterday, first 12.5mg taken in the evening. I've not decided if i'm going to dose eod or daily yet, but i'll get labs done in a couple of weeks and see what it's doing.
Mine is sat in the drawer. From the same source. I'm not sure if i'll take it yet. Would really like to here about your experience.

I was planning to do 12.5 every 3 days. I think I heard Dr Mark Gordon suggesting more infrequent dosage but don't remember exactly where.
 

seppuku

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Mine is sat in the drawer. From the same source. I'm not sure if i'll take it yet. Would really like to here about your experience.

I was planning to do 12.5 every 3 days. I think I heard Dr Mark Gordon suggesting more infrequent dosage but don't remember exactly where.

Well i figured that since i was previously taking regular clomid 12.5mg eod, and i'm now using (hopefully) pure enclomiphene without the zuclomiphene in it - then by keeping to the same dosing schedule i should actually be getting results similar to taking 25mg regular clomid eod (but hopefully without the side effects)
 

tLearner

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dr mark gordon on clomid
Here is where I heard that comment on e3d. He says he's on every eod now but recommends e3d too. All this stuff is more art than science.

I started 12.5mg eod yesterday evening but I'm going to do one week on one week off. I'm hoping to achieve a boost in TT, free T and reduction in SHBG.

My test results will have confounding factors though, due to diet changes which can effect SHBG, and may not be applicable in a broader sense. Can't decide when to get my next set of blood tests though.
 

seppuku

Member
dr mark gordon on clomid
Here is where I heard that comment on e3d. He says he's on every eod now but recommends e3d too. All this stuff is more art than science.

I started 12.5mg eod yesterday evening but I'm going to do one week on one week off. I'm hoping to achieve a boost in TT, free T and reduction in SHBG.

My test results will have confounding factors though, due to diet changes which can effect SHBG, and may not be applicable in a broader sense. Can't decide when to get my next set of blood tests though.
Interesting video, thanks for sharing.
 

TLawyer

Active Member
dr mark gordon on clomid
Here is where I heard that comment on e3d. He says he's on every eod now but recommends e3d too. All this stuff is more art than science.

I started 12.5mg eod yesterday evening but I'm going to do one week on one week off. I'm hoping to achieve a boost in TT, free T and reduction in SHBG.

My test results will have confounding factors though, due to diet changes which can effect SHBG, and may not be applicable in a broader sense. Can't decide when to get my next set of blood tests though.
I believe that enclomiphene has been shown to actually increase SHBG. It does increase mine, although my calculated Free T was still better with enclomiphene than without.
 

tLearner

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I believe that enclomiphene has been shown to actually increase SHBG. It does increase mine, although my calculated Free T was still better with enclomiphene than without.
Do you mind sharing what it was before and after? I glanced at your post history and saw SHBG - 23.9 nmol/L in one of your posts. Mine is 62 nmol/L and I think it may have a very different result depending on your starting point.

I don't think too many of the studies have been conducted on people with normal to high TT but also high SHBG. This may make them not great sources of info for my purposes
 
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TLawyer

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Do you mind sharing what it was before and after? I glanced at your post history and saw SHBG - 23.9 nmol/L in one of your posts. Mine is 62 nmol/L and I think it may have a very different result depending on your starting point.

I don't think too many of the studies have been conducted on people with normal to high TT but also high SHBG. This may make them not great sources of info for my purpos

Do you mind sharing what it was before and after? I glanced at your post history and saw SHBG - 23.9 nmol/L in one of your posts. Mine is 62 nmol/L and I think it may have a very different result depending on your starting point.

I don't think too many of the studies have been conducted on people with normal to high TT but also high SHBG. This may make them not great sources of info for my purposes
My SHBG pre-TRT was high teens/low 20's. When I was taking enclomiphene 12.5 mg every day (after stopping TRT), it went up to 32. The 23.9 that you are referencing was when I had been off of enclomiphene for 10 days as I am playing with dosing to see the best result (primarily to see if I can get my E2 down compared to every day dosing), so it was a little bit higher than I am when I am on nothing. So it wasn't a huge increase in my SHBG, and with the resulting increase in TT, my calculated Free TT was in a good range. My issue is that my E2 also increased a good bit on every day dosing (TT was about 550 but E2 was in the 50's). I am currently trying once per week enclomiphene dosing and have been for 3 weeks, probably will take a blood test next week to see where I am just before I take my weekly pill (i.e., my trough). Feel pretty good actually right now, although I am still taking Ibutamoren every day, but I think a big reason is lower E2 with less frequent enclomiphene dosing (and I felt a bit crappy on an AI to try and bring it down). If lab tests aren't great, I'll increase to every 3.5 days and see where that gets me.
 

tLearner

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I am currently trying once per week enclomiphene dosing and have been for 3 weeks
I suspect less frequent dosing may have lots of benefits but will need to learn a lot more to say anything decent on that subject. How do you feel during the period between administrations, particularly the 24hr after compared to the 24hr before?

My SHBG pre-TRT was high teens/low 20's. ... it went up to 32.
Which is what one would hope for from a decent therapy. If it doesn't rise too high that'd seem good don't you think.
 

TLawyer

Active Member
I suspect less frequent dosing may have lots of benefits but will need to learn a lot more to say anything decent on that subject. How do you feel during the period between administrations, particularly the 24hr after compared to the 24hr before?

Less frequent will be better for me than everyday. Still working through how I feel and the exact frequency as it will take a few months to really gauge it as my body will need to adjust to certain levels.

Which is what one would hope for from a decent therapy. If it doesn't rise too high that'd seem good don't you think.

Not a big deal for me as my SHBG was already low. But a 50% increase in SHBG could pose a bigger problem for someone who has a higher SHBG baseline level.
 

tLearner

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But a 50% increase in SHBG could pose a bigger problem for someone who has a higher SHBG baseline level.
Have you seen any evidence to make you think that's likely? I have high SHBG, I'm running a enclomiphene experiment, hope it works
 

TLawyer

Active Member
Have you seen any evidence to make you think that's likely? I have high SHBG, I'm running a enclomiphene experiment, hope it works
I've read a few studies where the use of Clomid increased SHBG. I've read I believe two with enclomiphene where it didn't increase in one but did increase in the other. So it's very individual, and I don't remember reading about huge increases (maybe from like the high 30's to the low 50's in the Clomid study). In my personal case, I can't come up with an explanation for the increase in SHBG other than enclomiphene (I have had lots of labs and was never that high - it actually went lower when I was on TRT, which tends to happen with increased T levels). Enclomiphene increased my T levels but my SHBG also increased. Again, it still had my Free T levels in a good range, my problem was that it shot my E2 into the 50's. I do think with some trial and error I can find a good frequency of use that will work well for me, just need to go through that process. I'm getting labs on Thursday morning which will tell me where I am at after 3 weeks of once per week. If it's a bit too low, then I'll probably go to every 3.5 days.
 

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