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you need to avoid seed oils (PUFA's)
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<blockquote data-quote="Phil Goodman" data-source="post: 279779" data-attributes="member: 42777"><p>Fair enough, you can decide for yourself what type of influence you feel there is or isn’t. I was speaking more from a general perspective because there is a very extensive history of this type of activity(using funding or other measures to influence study structures and outcomes). I’m obviously not gonna prove it to you and that’s fine, feel free to believe there is zero influence on this front if you want.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You’re using an analysis from 1989 about a food questionnaire as evidence that the study published in 2023 validated the responses by participants?? Seems like a strange take to me, but alright. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well I commend you on your photographic memory, but I assure you the vast, VAST majority of people on this planet don’t share your abilities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good find on the survey, so thanks for that. I honestly did do some looking but didn’t come across anything. When reviewing it, it looks poorly structured for the purposes of parsing out the impact of red meat on type 2 diabetes. For example.. here are the categories for frequency of red meat intake:</p><p></p><p>Never/less than once per month </p><p></p><p>1-3 times per month </p><p></p><p>1 times per week</p><p></p><p>2-4 times per week</p><p></p><p>5-6 times per week</p><p></p><p>1 time per day</p><p></p><p>2-4 times daily</p><p></p><p>5-6 times daily</p><p></p><p></p><p>So again people’s recollection is generally poor but even if they were reasonably accurate those are pretty big windows and can be interpreted differently. It also doesn’t account for serving size. A person could eat more in that one meal than the next person eats in all three of his. Again the amounts are covered(not like the participants would be particularly precise when recalling a meal from 8 months ago anyway). It also doesn’t parse out the different types of red meat to determine if one may have more of an impact than others.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It isn’t meat per capita, it’s beef per capita. But if you want to ignore the real world just because I’ve never published to a journal then fine. And honestly at the end of the day what matters way more than what I believe or what you believe, is how healthy we are. I’m doing great for myself at the moment and hope you are as well. Whatever beliefs you take to get there is alright with me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phil Goodman, post: 279779, member: 42777"] Fair enough, you can decide for yourself what type of influence you feel there is or isn’t. I was speaking more from a general perspective because there is a very extensive history of this type of activity(using funding or other measures to influence study structures and outcomes). I’m obviously not gonna prove it to you and that’s fine, feel free to believe there is zero influence on this front if you want. You’re using an analysis from 1989 about a food questionnaire as evidence that the study published in 2023 validated the responses by participants?? Seems like a strange take to me, but alright. Well I commend you on your photographic memory, but I assure you the vast, VAST majority of people on this planet don’t share your abilities. Good find on the survey, so thanks for that. I honestly did do some looking but didn’t come across anything. When reviewing it, it looks poorly structured for the purposes of parsing out the impact of red meat on type 2 diabetes. For example.. here are the categories for frequency of red meat intake: Never/less than once per month 1-3 times per month 1 times per week 2-4 times per week 5-6 times per week 1 time per day 2-4 times daily 5-6 times daily So again people’s recollection is generally poor but even if they were reasonably accurate those are pretty big windows and can be interpreted differently. It also doesn’t account for serving size. A person could eat more in that one meal than the next person eats in all three of his. Again the amounts are covered(not like the participants would be particularly precise when recalling a meal from 8 months ago anyway). It also doesn’t parse out the different types of red meat to determine if one may have more of an impact than others. It isn’t meat per capita, it’s beef per capita. But if you want to ignore the real world just because I’ve never published to a journal then fine. And honestly at the end of the day what matters way more than what I believe or what you believe, is how healthy we are. I’m doing great for myself at the moment and hope you are as well. Whatever beliefs you take to get there is alright with me. [/QUOTE]
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