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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Yet another fertility, ancillary case following long term TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="Sides" data-source="post: 130568" data-attributes="member: 31749"><p>Hey zat954,</p><p></p><p>Good to hear from you, and I'm happy if my experiences can help you and others.</p><p></p><p>In answer to your questions, I have changed my regimen since my wife and I had IVF: now my goal is just to maintain some level of fertility in case we have to start over because of miscarriage, praying very hard that God is good and everything goes well. But although the fertility drugs did increase my sperm count, they never made me feel good.</p><p></p><p>So now I have decreased the HCG to 250iu every other day, and the FSH to 40iu every other day, just to maintain some activity and stimulation to the Leydig and Sertoli cells just in case we have to do this all over again. I cut out the Clomid completely immediately after we had IVF. To be honest, HCG and Clomid at any dosage made me feel bad, increased my E2, decreased my libido, and I suspect the Clomid increased my SHBG as my SHBG and E2 both got way too high during this whole process. My doctor tried to combat the increased E2 by prescribing me Letrozole, but even taking .5mg of Letrozole once a week crashes my E2 down to less than 5 pg/ml and makes me feel horrible. So I am an over-responder to aromatase inhibitors and am better off without them. And I never felt any benefit from taking HCG, although I am thankful it increased my sperm count, HCG at any dosage always made me feel worse.</p><p></p><p>I did also use Proviron (mesterolone, a DHT-based compound) throughout this entire process, as although it has never been approved in the USA, it has often been prescribed in the EU for increasing men's sperm counts, although the studies are mixed as to how well it works. Nevertheless, I used Proviron at 25mg per day throughout the entire 11 months, and I certainly don't feel that it hurt me any, and might have helped with my increased sperm count. It didn't seem to help with SHBG, as my SHBG increased way too high during this whole period, but it is hard to separate out the individual effects of each drug in my protocol (test, Proviron, Clomid, HCG, HMG, Letrozole)...all I can do is look at the combined effect that all of them together had on my sperm count.</p><p></p><p>Maybe even the Letrozole helped, even though it ruined my libido and erectile function and made me feel like death. But there are studies showing that Letrozole does help increase men's sperm counts as well, so who knows, it might have helped with the overall results. I will never voluntarily take an aromatase inhibitor again, though. The HCG made me feel lousy, but the Letrozole really killed my libido and made me miserable.</p><p></p><p>So overall if I had to do it all over again, I would have just kept things simple: test, HCG, HMG or FSH, and possibly Proviron, for those like myself willing to import from overseas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sides, post: 130568, member: 31749"] Hey zat954, Good to hear from you, and I'm happy if my experiences can help you and others. In answer to your questions, I have changed my regimen since my wife and I had IVF: now my goal is just to maintain some level of fertility in case we have to start over because of miscarriage, praying very hard that God is good and everything goes well. But although the fertility drugs did increase my sperm count, they never made me feel good. So now I have decreased the HCG to 250iu every other day, and the FSH to 40iu every other day, just to maintain some activity and stimulation to the Leydig and Sertoli cells just in case we have to do this all over again. I cut out the Clomid completely immediately after we had IVF. To be honest, HCG and Clomid at any dosage made me feel bad, increased my E2, decreased my libido, and I suspect the Clomid increased my SHBG as my SHBG and E2 both got way too high during this whole process. My doctor tried to combat the increased E2 by prescribing me Letrozole, but even taking .5mg of Letrozole once a week crashes my E2 down to less than 5 pg/ml and makes me feel horrible. So I am an over-responder to aromatase inhibitors and am better off without them. And I never felt any benefit from taking HCG, although I am thankful it increased my sperm count, HCG at any dosage always made me feel worse. I did also use Proviron (mesterolone, a DHT-based compound) throughout this entire process, as although it has never been approved in the USA, it has often been prescribed in the EU for increasing men's sperm counts, although the studies are mixed as to how well it works. Nevertheless, I used Proviron at 25mg per day throughout the entire 11 months, and I certainly don't feel that it hurt me any, and might have helped with my increased sperm count. It didn't seem to help with SHBG, as my SHBG increased way too high during this whole period, but it is hard to separate out the individual effects of each drug in my protocol (test, Proviron, Clomid, HCG, HMG, Letrozole)...all I can do is look at the combined effect that all of them together had on my sperm count. Maybe even the Letrozole helped, even though it ruined my libido and erectile function and made me feel like death. But there are studies showing that Letrozole does help increase men's sperm counts as well, so who knows, it might have helped with the overall results. I will never voluntarily take an aromatase inhibitor again, though. The HCG made me feel lousy, but the Letrozole really killed my libido and made me miserable. So overall if I had to do it all over again, I would have just kept things simple: test, HCG, HMG or FSH, and possibly Proviron, for those like myself willing to import from overseas. [/QUOTE]
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