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<blockquote data-quote="mitcHELLspawn" data-source="post: 271507" data-attributes="member: 46178"><p>Thank you so much for everyone taking part in this discussion and also for the latest guy sharing his experience. This has been extremely informative and insightful.</p><p></p><p>I am now 10 weeks into a strict gym routine and switched to weekly injections from the advice on this forum. </p><p></p><p>I have not switched to sub-q yet however. (I’ll explain shortly)</p><p></p><p>when I started the gym I was 245 lbs. I carried it very well but was definitely overweight by a lot. As mentioned earlier I was in very good shape in my 20s and so carried all the muscle with me and with a layer of fat on top so my arms were always big and defined etc. </p><p></p><p>Anyways, I am now down to 223 while also very clearly and visibly also gaining new muscle. Things are going incredibly well. My strength has consistently just continued to grow. </p><p>For bench as a metric - upon first week or so I was only able to just barely bench 135 for 8-9. </p><p>I just had my latest chest day today and I was able to bench 225 for 8 - up an extra 2 reps from last week where I was able to do it for 6. So the strength continues to grow. </p><p></p><p>I’m so happy with what TRT has done for me. I have more energy, my health, looks, confidence and wellbeing is the highest it’s been in years. </p><p></p><p>So that was just an update. </p><p></p><p>Now - why haven’t I taken the sub-q advice ?</p><p></p><p>So, I am extremely new to all of this obviously. And I know everyone here is extremely knowledgeable, but of course it would be irresponsible of me to just take advice without first contacting my health professional. So I went to the pharmacy that I goto and discussed it with my pharmacist. She (as expected) didn’t really know much about it - but my pharmacy is a great little mom+pop run spot - and so she said to leave it with her and she would do some research. </p><p></p><p>Long story short, the next week I came in and she had been emailing back and forth with some health Canada company that manufactures test and other stuff. It wasn’t the exact company as mine, but they essentially said that it should be deep IM in the glute or thigh and no delt and they attached some clinical study on the efficacy of each and showed delt IM injections not as effective etc and then they outright said that the stuff I use should NOT be used subconsciously. </p><p></p><p>So… that’s where I am now <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> - I obviously know yall know a ton about this stuff, but I also can’t verify any credentials etc and I feel it would be irresponsible of me to take advice from a forum when my direct health professionals are saying I shouldn’t…. This is really a crappy place to be in, because I’m so clueless about all of this stuff as well so I don’t even know enough and either way have to rely on a third party. </p><p></p><p>Does anyone happen to have a study or information from a reputable source of using the standard IM based test solutions used in subcutaneous methods and the efficacy to go along with it etc? My pharmacist did mention that there are types of test out there made for that type of shallow injection, but said mine was not that type. </p><p></p><p>Sorry guys please don’t take this as me being combative or going against your clearly knowledgeable opinions. I’m just in a tough spot here. I want to make the best decision for myself. I would love to be able to start sub-q and move to twice a week injections but as it stands I’m still using what yall very elegantly referred to as “harpoons” haha and I couldn’t agree more. I’m using 1.5” 23G into the glute. Obviously great results but very inconvenient.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mitcHELLspawn, post: 271507, member: 46178"] Thank you so much for everyone taking part in this discussion and also for the latest guy sharing his experience. This has been extremely informative and insightful. I am now 10 weeks into a strict gym routine and switched to weekly injections from the advice on this forum. I have not switched to sub-q yet however. (I’ll explain shortly) when I started the gym I was 245 lbs. I carried it very well but was definitely overweight by a lot. As mentioned earlier I was in very good shape in my 20s and so carried all the muscle with me and with a layer of fat on top so my arms were always big and defined etc. Anyways, I am now down to 223 while also very clearly and visibly also gaining new muscle. Things are going incredibly well. My strength has consistently just continued to grow. For bench as a metric - upon first week or so I was only able to just barely bench 135 for 8-9. I just had my latest chest day today and I was able to bench 225 for 8 - up an extra 2 reps from last week where I was able to do it for 6. So the strength continues to grow. I’m so happy with what TRT has done for me. I have more energy, my health, looks, confidence and wellbeing is the highest it’s been in years. So that was just an update. Now - why haven’t I taken the sub-q advice ? So, I am extremely new to all of this obviously. And I know everyone here is extremely knowledgeable, but of course it would be irresponsible of me to just take advice without first contacting my health professional. So I went to the pharmacy that I goto and discussed it with my pharmacist. She (as expected) didn’t really know much about it - but my pharmacy is a great little mom+pop run spot - and so she said to leave it with her and she would do some research. Long story short, the next week I came in and she had been emailing back and forth with some health Canada company that manufactures test and other stuff. It wasn’t the exact company as mine, but they essentially said that it should be deep IM in the glute or thigh and no delt and they attached some clinical study on the efficacy of each and showed delt IM injections not as effective etc and then they outright said that the stuff I use should NOT be used subconsciously. So… that’s where I am now :( - I obviously know yall know a ton about this stuff, but I also can’t verify any credentials etc and I feel it would be irresponsible of me to take advice from a forum when my direct health professionals are saying I shouldn’t…. This is really a crappy place to be in, because I’m so clueless about all of this stuff as well so I don’t even know enough and either way have to rely on a third party. Does anyone happen to have a study or information from a reputable source of using the standard IM based test solutions used in subcutaneous methods and the efficacy to go along with it etc? My pharmacist did mention that there are types of test out there made for that type of shallow injection, but said mine was not that type. Sorry guys please don’t take this as me being combative or going against your clearly knowledgeable opinions. I’m just in a tough spot here. I want to make the best decision for myself. I would love to be able to start sub-q and move to twice a week injections but as it stands I’m still using what yall very elegantly referred to as “harpoons” haha and I couldn’t agree more. I’m using 1.5” 23G into the glute. Obviously great results but very inconvenient. [/QUOTE]
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