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Who Started TRT w/ "Normal" Levels @ What Age?
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<blockquote data-quote="aneuman" data-source="post: 219054" data-attributes="member: 43264"><p>Hey guys,</p><p></p><p>Wanted to give you an update, and obviously, I also have questions.</p><p></p><p>After about 3 months of Enclomiphene Citrate monotherapy (12.5 mg once daily) my labs came out amazing (I think, at lest for a 60 years old man)</p><p></p><p>Total Testosterone: <strong>787 ng/dL</strong>. (Reference Range: 250-827 ng/dL)</p><p>SHBG:<strong> 44 mol/L</strong> (Reference Range: 22-77 nmol/L)</p><p>Testosterone Bioavailable:<strong> 190.1 ng/dL</strong> (Reference Range: 110.0-575.0 ng/dL)</p><p>Free Testosterone:<strong> 88.7 pg/ml</strong> (Reference Range: 46.0-224.0 pg/mL)</p><p>Albumin: 4.7 g/dL (Reference Range: 3.6-5.1 g/dL)</p><p>My LH and FSH are high above normal, but that's expected I think given how EC works.</p><p></p><p>All other labs are within normal range, including cholesterol, B12, Vit-E, Folate, Calcium, Potassium, etc.</p><p></p><p>It seems that EC works well in increasing testosterone, no questions about it. These numbers look good, however, I don't feel any different and most of the issues I related above remain the same. There may be a perhaps small almost unnoticeable improvement in general, but definitely not proportional with the increase in T.</p><p></p><p>Question, could it be that because I was subjected to low T for so long (more than 15 years) my body has slowly gotten used it and now it may take a few months for the body to recognize the new balance and start adjusting accordingly?</p><p></p><p>Any other "old" people here with similar experiences? This is definitely NOT like the wonderful but short-lived experience I had with HCG.</p><p></p><p>****</p><p>Edited the post because I found this that gives me hope and is in line with my hypothesis above. It was using Clomiphene, but close enough I guess....</p><p></p><p>"In elderly men with erectile dysfunction, Guay and colleagues13 found that the use of clomiphene citrate for 2-months raised LH, FSH, and testosterone levels; however, despite the increase in serum testosterone, sexual function in these elderly men did not significantly improve. However, a follow-up study with an extended 4-month duration of treatment with clomiphene did demonstrate an improvement in sexual function in 75% of men with secondary hypogonadism and erectile dysfunction, confirming that <strong>improvement in hypogonadal symptoms may require at least 3 months of eugonadal levels before symptoms improve"</strong></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5010627/" target="_blank">The Role of Estrogen Modulators in Male Hypogonadism and Infertility</a></p><p></p><p>******</p><p></p><p>Thanks everyone!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aneuman, post: 219054, member: 43264"] Hey guys, Wanted to give you an update, and obviously, I also have questions. After about 3 months of Enclomiphene Citrate monotherapy (12.5 mg once daily) my labs came out amazing (I think, at lest for a 60 years old man) Total Testosterone: [B]787 ng/dL[/B]. (Reference Range: 250-827 ng/dL) SHBG:[B] 44 mol/L[/B] (Reference Range: 22-77 nmol/L) Testosterone Bioavailable:[B] 190.1 ng/dL[/B] (Reference Range: 110.0-575.0 ng/dL) Free Testosterone:[B] 88.7 pg/ml[/B] (Reference Range: 46.0-224.0 pg/mL) Albumin: 4.7 g/dL (Reference Range: 3.6-5.1 g/dL) My LH and FSH are high above normal, but that's expected I think given how EC works. All other labs are within normal range, including cholesterol, B12, Vit-E, Folate, Calcium, Potassium, etc. It seems that EC works well in increasing testosterone, no questions about it. These numbers look good, however, I don't feel any different and most of the issues I related above remain the same. There may be a perhaps small almost unnoticeable improvement in general, but definitely not proportional with the increase in T. Question, could it be that because I was subjected to low T for so long (more than 15 years) my body has slowly gotten used it and now it may take a few months for the body to recognize the new balance and start adjusting accordingly? Any other "old" people here with similar experiences? This is definitely NOT like the wonderful but short-lived experience I had with HCG. **** Edited the post because I found this that gives me hope and is in line with my hypothesis above. It was using Clomiphene, but close enough I guess.... "In elderly men with erectile dysfunction, Guay and colleagues13 found that the use of clomiphene citrate for 2-months raised LH, FSH, and testosterone levels; however, despite the increase in serum testosterone, sexual function in these elderly men did not significantly improve. However, a follow-up study with an extended 4-month duration of treatment with clomiphene did demonstrate an improvement in sexual function in 75% of men with secondary hypogonadism and erectile dysfunction, confirming that [B]improvement in hypogonadal symptoms may require at least 3 months of eugonadal levels before symptoms improve"[/B] [URL="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5010627/"]The Role of Estrogen Modulators in Male Hypogonadism and Infertility[/URL] ****** Thanks everyone! [/QUOTE]
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