When trt does not bring libido back or it worsens on trt.

[tmckenzie]

Seems I read more everyday about another man who is on trt yet has low or no libido, or like me, had fair libido with low t but now have good levels and libido is gone. I started this so others can chime in, explain what worked if anything etc. So let er rip.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I have had that problem. But I am not your typical TRT user. I have some complicating factors: 20 years of injections, prior Propecia exposure, back surgeries that probably added to my ED, etc

HCG+ TRT+ daily 5 mg Cialis+ Citrulline has been a great protocol. When my sex drive is over the roof and I want to last long, Trimix does the trick.

Some men need to play a bit with their dopamine and serotonin. Buspar added to SSRIs seems to help. A peptide called PT-141 obtained online seems to work for many guys.

 

[Sebastian Moratinos]

what is the bennefit of HCG? isn´t it dangerous to combine cialis with trimix?

 

[tmckenzie]

I am on trt, hcg, caber, and have tried cialis, citruline, everything. It is about to drive me insane.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Yeah, I mentioned that it is not a good idea to use Cialis and Trimix together since it may cause priaprism

 

[Nelson Vergel]

tmckenzie is your issue not feeling sexual? not even wanting to masturbate? and/or not having erections?

 

[tmckenzie]

No sexual feelings at all. I have good morning wood, get erections if I try, but the part that makes you want to have sex is not working at all. You know, the urge one gets. I will have sex with my girlfriend to keep her pleased and I enjoy it, but I cannot even reach orgasm. And if I masturbate, I cannot orgasm. It is because the urge is gone.

 

[Gene Devine]

I added a low dose of Cabergoline (Dostinex) .25 mg twice a week on injection days and for me I can say it has had a major impact on libido which is strong all day, much more intense orgasms as well.

Caber is a dopamine agonist and also lowers Prolactin some both of which can enhance libido in some men.

Daily HCG of 125 iu seems to have added even more to my good libido as well.

Libido is just soooo complex it's very difficult to pinpoint problems.

Just thinking about not having libido can cause low libido.

 

[tmckenzie]

This goes along with bouts of fatigue, some days are better than others.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Medications are usually to blame for not being able to cum

Fatigue is a sex drive killer. Sleep apnea is one of the main issues in fatigue that does not get better with 8 hours of sleep.

A bit of TMI here, but watching a few minutes of porn a day helps me keep my sex drive muscle going. This works even when I am stressed out with work. Visual/sound stimulation is well known to help. Sex drive is like a muscle that needs to be worked a few minutes a day.

HCG + TRT + Cialis works for most. I think if this protocol does not help, there must be other issues like medication side effects, fatigue, etc

Sex drive and erectile function are complex.

 

[robs2nd75]

tmckenzie, do you still feel pleasure in other areas of your life?

 

[tmckenzie]

Nelson, I use porn sometimes as let's say an exercise, but even hard to get off then, and have even lost erection. I used to have a sexual drive though the roof. It maybe whatever is causing the fatigue. Sometimes even twelve hours does not refresh me. Oh yes, ingetmpleasure from other areas, mostly work, seeing a job well done. As far as drugs, nothing changed drug wise as far as I know. When it left, I was seeing a drin an hour away that insisted on giving me shots every Friday. I wonder if he gave me something that messed me up?. One other weird thing is, and tmi here too, if I do cum, I start to cum way before orgasm hits. I blow most of my load load before the orgasm hits. And have on occasion not even had orgasm though I ejaculated. This is all new to me, sometimes I wondernwhyni even continue trt. I would not if I had not seen the good effects of weight loss. My family has severe diabetes and heart trouble. My sugar number and cholesterol number continue to improve along with weight.

 

[robs2nd75]

Hope this helps.
http://www.stanleyducharme.com/resources/anxiety.htm

 

[Nelson Vergel]

ummm...interesting sex therapy they mention in that article, robs2nd75

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensate_focusing

 

[tmckenzie]

Been performing for years, never had this problem until 4 months ago. Not performance anxiety. This is something screwed up medically. Nelson, since I have very low cortisol levels, could this contribute?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Low cortisol can definitely affect sex drive. If you want to experiment, try prednisone al low dose for a short time and see what happens. Not a good thing long term but I notice a huge increase in sex drive (I have had three back surgeries so corticoid steroids were common use for me)

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I am starting to do podcasts soon. One of my goals is to have main researchers from the Sexual Psychophaphysiology Lab in one of my programs. http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/group/mestonlab/html files/Research.htm

There is a lot we need to learn about sex drive beyond testosterone and other hormones.

 

[tmckenzie]

Low cortisol can definitely affect sex drive. If you want to experiment, try prednisone al low dose for a short time and see what happens. Not a good thing long term but I notice a huge increase in sex drive (I have had three back surgeries so corticoid steroids were common use for me)

dr tried me on all replacement steroids, cannot take them, as they cramp me up so much.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Have you tried? http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/the-libido-drug-20120807

"Several hours after taking the drug, I wasn't experiencing a headache, a palpitating heart, or nausea, but, sadly, I also hadn't enjoyed a spontaneous erection. Then, at four in the morning, it took hold. I felt a great surge of affection (greater than any regular level of arousal) for my lovely wife. My body tingled and, yes, I developed an erection that wouldn't quit. For two hours the drug wouldn't let me out of its grasp – nor my wife out of mine."

Video

Research purpose purchase

 

[Gene Devine]

PT 141 works but it can only be taken a few times a month at best as receptors become insensitive very quickly.