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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
What is going on? I stopped my TRT.
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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 173906" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>Quite a few guys have commented on this, but I think maybe you completely missed the point:</p><p></p><p>Because of the half life of T cyp, it takes 6-8 weeks to reach steady state with blood levels. This means once you start an injection protocol you have to ride it out that long to see what your actual end point will be. If you stop you also need to wait that long to get back to baseline. It looks to me like you have made multiple changes in less than a month's time... that just is not going to work out. Period.</p><p></p><p>For me personally, actually reaching the point where my body really stabilizes after T cyp dosage changes is 2-3 months... Yes 8-12 weeks.</p><p></p><p>It appears to me you have never started and maintained a single protocol and given it the chance to work. It appears you have bounced around changing doses which does nothing but confuse the heck out of your body's hormone balance.</p><p></p><p>I agree too that you started with too high a dose. I too was started on 150/week when I transitioned to injection from Transdermal, and it was WAY too much. This of course varies by individual, some guys do need this much, but much better to start low and then increase slowly... any increases should happen after a minimum of 6-8 weeks on a given dose.</p><p></p><p>After close to 2 years working to get it right I am finally on 84mg/week dosed as 24mg EOD. I also have had to tweak HCG amount and add a tiny tiny bit of anastrozole. Now it works right for me. This does bot mean it will work for you. Every individual needs to find his own dosages that work. For example, my SHBG has stabilized around 50. Yours is 12. Therefore what works well for me may not work for you one bit.</p><p></p><p>With low SHBG, it maybe advantgeous for you to dose EOD or even daily and at much lower doses. You also may need to run your E2 at levels very different from other guys with higher SHBG.</p><p></p><p>Adjusting to get TRT right can be a long term endeavor, like many months or years vs weeks. The knee jerk reactionary adjustments you are making are only going to confuse things and obscure what would actually be beneficial for you.</p><p></p><p>Decide on a reasonable starting point then stick with it for a minimum of 6-8 weeks before getting labs. Re-assess, and try to only make a single change at a time from there so you can attribute any symptomatic changes to that single variable... if you try to change too many things at once, you will never know for sure which change caused which result.</p><p></p><p>Settle down, and slow the heck down!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 173906, member: 16042"] Quite a few guys have commented on this, but I think maybe you completely missed the point: Because of the half life of T cyp, it takes 6-8 weeks to reach steady state with blood levels. This means once you start an injection protocol you have to ride it out that long to see what your actual end point will be. If you stop you also need to wait that long to get back to baseline. It looks to me like you have made multiple changes in less than a month's time... that just is not going to work out. Period. For me personally, actually reaching the point where my body really stabilizes after T cyp dosage changes is 2-3 months... Yes 8-12 weeks. It appears to me you have never started and maintained a single protocol and given it the chance to work. It appears you have bounced around changing doses which does nothing but confuse the heck out of your body's hormone balance. I agree too that you started with too high a dose. I too was started on 150/week when I transitioned to injection from Transdermal, and it was WAY too much. This of course varies by individual, some guys do need this much, but much better to start low and then increase slowly... any increases should happen after a minimum of 6-8 weeks on a given dose. After close to 2 years working to get it right I am finally on 84mg/week dosed as 24mg EOD. I also have had to tweak HCG amount and add a tiny tiny bit of anastrozole. Now it works right for me. This does bot mean it will work for you. Every individual needs to find his own dosages that work. For example, my SHBG has stabilized around 50. Yours is 12. Therefore what works well for me may not work for you one bit. With low SHBG, it maybe advantgeous for you to dose EOD or even daily and at much lower doses. You also may need to run your E2 at levels very different from other guys with higher SHBG. Adjusting to get TRT right can be a long term endeavor, like many months or years vs weeks. The knee jerk reactionary adjustments you are making are only going to confuse things and obscure what would actually be beneficial for you. Decide on a reasonable starting point then stick with it for a minimum of 6-8 weeks before getting labs. Re-assess, and try to only make a single change at a time from there so you can attribute any symptomatic changes to that single variable... if you try to change too many things at once, you will never know for sure which change caused which result. Settle down, and slow the heck down! [/QUOTE]
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