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Vince's Labs for October 2023
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 268507" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>One of the lucky ones that can get away with running a very high TT or better yet absurdly high FT level based on what would be considered one of the most accurate assays Equilibrium Ultrafiltration for testing free testosterone.</p><p></p><p>Even when using the calculated linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen your FT would be absurdly high 30.6 ng/dL.</p><p></p><p>As I have stated numerous times on the forum if you feel great overall, minus any sides and your blood markers are healthy then stick with what works best for you.</p><p></p><p>At least this is your FT levels on daily not once-weekly or twice-weekly injections LMFAO!</p><p></p><p>Big difference in running a trough TT 1400+ ng/dL with absurdly high FT on dailies versus someone hitting such trough levels on once-weekly or twice-weekly injections!</p><p></p><p>The only thing to keep an eye on is your estradiol which tends to run in the low 20s and has even dipped below 20 pg/mL on some of your previous labs (same protocol) which is not good in the long run especially when it comes to bone health!</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind when looking over your previous labs vs most recent something is not jiving here.</p><p></p><p>Always the same protocol 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 IU of hCG twice weekly, and no AI but your TT levels are all over the place.</p><p></p><p>Your SHBG has always been highish.</p><p></p><p>When injecting daily you are clipping the peak--->trough and blood levels will be very stable throughout the week.</p><p></p><p>Now if you were getting some labs done with hCG and others with dropping the hCG then this would make sense.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, in every set of labs, you have posted on the forum your protocol 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, and 500 IU of hCG twice weekly, and no AI remained consistent.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately on the last 2 sets of labs posted below your FT was not tested using an accurate assay (ED or UF) as you had it tested using the known to be inaccurate direct immunoassay.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/vince-shares-his-daily-testosterone-plus-dhea-and-pregnenolone-results.25115/[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em><strong>My protocol, same as last labs.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of hcg twice weekly and no AI.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Pregnenolone 10 mg and 25 mg of DHEA.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><strong><em>My last injection before labs, about 28 hr.s.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Testosterone, Total, LC/MS, 1035.9 High ng/dL 264.0-916.0</em></strong></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Testosterone, Free 33.77 High ng/dL 5.00-21.00</strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>% Free Testosterone 3.26% 1.50-4.20</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>DHEA-Sulfate01 499.0 High ug/dL 30.9-295.6 age adjust</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Dihydrotestosterone 56 ng/dL</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong>Estradiol, Sensitive 18.7 pg/mL 8.0-35.0</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum. 41.2 nmol/L 19.3-76.4</strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Hemoglobin. 16.7 g/dL 13.0-17.7</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Hematocrit 47.7 37.5-51.0</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/my-most-recent-labs.23112/[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em><strong>My protocol, 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of hcg twice weekly and no AI.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Pregnenolone 10 mg and 25 mg of DHEA.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>My last injection before labs, about 28 hr.s.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><strong><em>Labs are from LabCorp.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Testosterone, Serum 1319 ng/dL range 264-916</em></strong></p><p><em><strong>Free Testosterone 47.9 ng/dL range 5.00-21.00</strong></em></p><p><em>% Free Testosterone 3.57 range 1.50-4.20</em></p><p><em>DHEA-Sulfate 449.0 H ug/dL range 30.9-295.6 (age adjusted)</em></p><p><em><strong>Estradiol, Sensitive 24.0 pg/mL range 8.0-35.0</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 48.2 nmol/L range 19.3-76.4</strong></em></p><p><em>Hematocrit 46.8 % range 37.5-51.0</em></p><p><em>Hemoglobin 16.0 g/dL range 13.0-17.7</em></p><p><em>Albumin 4.2 g/dL range 3.8-4.8</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/vinces-new-testosterone-panel-1-21-2019.17519/[/URL]</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Same protocol for one year, 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of HCG twice a week, 25 mg of DHEA, 10mg of pregnenolone and no AI.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Testosterone serum 880 ng/dL range 264 - 916</em></strong></p><p><em><strong>Free T 32.3 pg/mL range 6.6 - 18.1</strong></em></p><p><em>DHEA - Sulfate 384.4 range 48.9 - 344.2</em></p><p><em><strong>Estradiol, Sensitive 28.5 range 8.0 - 35.0</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>SHBG 39.7 range 19.3 - 76.4</strong></em></p><p><em>HCT 48.0 range 37.5 - 51.0</em></p><p><em>DHT 54.0 range 30 - 85</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/vinces-testosterone-panel-from-6-12-2018.15162/[/URL]</p><p></p><p><strong><em>My protocol is 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of HCG twice a week, 25 mg of DHEA, 10mg of pregnenolonea and no AI.</em></strong></p><p></p><p><em><strong>testosterone serum 1117 ng/dL range 264 - 916</strong></em></p><p><strong><em>Free T 30.3 pg/mL range 6.6 - 18.1</em></strong></p><p>DHEA - Sulfate 347.3 range 48.9 - 344.2</p><p><strong><em>Estradiol, Sensitive 29.5 range 8.0 - 35.0</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>SHBG 48.8 range 19.3 - 76.4</em></strong></p><p>HCT 47.9 range 37.5 - 51.0</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 268507, member: 13851"] One of the lucky ones that can get away with running a very high TT or better yet absurdly high FT level based on what would be considered one of the most accurate assays Equilibrium Ultrafiltration for testing free testosterone. Even when using the calculated linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen your FT would be absurdly high 30.6 ng/dL. As I have stated numerous times on the forum if you feel great overall, minus any sides and your blood markers are healthy then stick with what works best for you. At least this is your FT levels on daily not once-weekly or twice-weekly injections LMFAO! Big difference in running a trough TT 1400+ ng/dL with absurdly high FT on dailies versus someone hitting such trough levels on once-weekly or twice-weekly injections! The only thing to keep an eye on is your estradiol which tends to run in the low 20s and has even dipped below 20 pg/mL on some of your previous labs (same protocol) which is not good in the long run especially when it comes to bone health! Keep in mind when looking over your previous labs vs most recent something is not jiving here. Always the same protocol 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 IU of hCG twice weekly, and no AI but your TT levels are all over the place. Your SHBG has always been highish. When injecting daily you are clipping the peak--->trough and blood levels will be very stable throughout the week. Now if you were getting some labs done with hCG and others with dropping the hCG then this would make sense. Unfortunately, in every set of labs, you have posted on the forum your protocol 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, and 500 IU of hCG twice weekly, and no AI remained consistent. Unfortunately on the last 2 sets of labs posted below your FT was not tested using an accurate assay (ED or UF) as you had it tested using the known to be inaccurate direct immunoassay. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/vince-shares-his-daily-testosterone-plus-dhea-and-pregnenolone-results.25115/[/URL] [I][B]My protocol, same as last labs. 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of hcg twice weekly and no AI. Pregnenolone 10 mg and 25 mg of DHEA. [/B][/I] [B][I]My last injection before labs, about 28 hr.s. Testosterone, Total, LC/MS, 1035.9 High ng/dL 264.0-916.0[/I][/B] [I][B] Testosterone, Free 33.77 High ng/dL 5.00-21.00[/B] % Free Testosterone 3.26% 1.50-4.20 DHEA-Sulfate01 499.0 High ug/dL 30.9-295.6 age adjust Dihydrotestosterone 56 ng/dL [B]Estradiol, Sensitive 18.7 pg/mL 8.0-35.0 Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum. 41.2 nmol/L 19.3-76.4[/B] Hemoglobin. 16.7 g/dL 13.0-17.7 Hematocrit 47.7 37.5-51.0[/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/my-most-recent-labs.23112/[/URL] [I][B]My protocol, 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of hcg twice weekly and no AI. Pregnenolone 10 mg and 25 mg of DHEA. My last injection before labs, about 28 hr.s. [/B][/I] [B][I]Labs are from LabCorp. Testosterone, Serum 1319 ng/dL range 264-916[/I][/B] [I][B]Free Testosterone 47.9 ng/dL range 5.00-21.00[/B] % Free Testosterone 3.57 range 1.50-4.20 DHEA-Sulfate 449.0 H ug/dL range 30.9-295.6 (age adjusted) [B]Estradiol, Sensitive 24.0 pg/mL range 8.0-35.0 Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 48.2 nmol/L range 19.3-76.4[/B] Hematocrit 46.8 % range 37.5-51.0 Hemoglobin 16.0 g/dL range 13.0-17.7 Albumin 4.2 g/dL range 3.8-4.8[/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/vinces-new-testosterone-panel-1-21-2019.17519/[/URL] [B][I]Same protocol for one year, 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of HCG twice a week, 25 mg of DHEA, 10mg of pregnenolone and no AI. Testosterone serum 880 ng/dL range 264 - 916[/I][/B] [I][B]Free T 32.3 pg/mL range 6.6 - 18.1[/B] DHEA - Sulfate 384.4 range 48.9 - 344.2 [B]Estradiol, Sensitive 28.5 range 8.0 - 35.0 SHBG 39.7 range 19.3 - 76.4[/B] HCT 48.0 range 37.5 - 51.0 DHT 54.0 range 30 - 85[/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/vinces-testosterone-panel-from-6-12-2018.15162/[/URL] [B][I]My protocol is 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of HCG twice a week, 25 mg of DHEA, 10mg of pregnenolonea and no AI.[/I][/B] [I][B]testosterone serum 1117 ng/dL range 264 - 916[/B][/I] [B][I]Free T 30.3 pg/mL range 6.6 - 18.1[/I][/B] DHEA - Sulfate 347.3 range 48.9 - 344.2 [B][I]Estradiol, Sensitive 29.5 range 8.0 - 35.0 SHBG 48.8 range 19.3 - 76.4[/I][/B] HCT 47.9 range 37.5 - 51.0 [/QUOTE]
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