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Trying TRT for the third time :/
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<blockquote data-quote="Johnnyv412" data-source="post: 82657" data-attributes="member: 16648"><p>Hello everyone. Short story from my experience from my trt and my protocols. I'm 6'7" and always around 290 lbs. I've always lifted, and stayed pretty athletic and I'm 33 years of age. So in 2014 I went into the doctors office with general symptoms of lethargy and general feelings of just being "unwell." After a slew of blood tests (total T as well) my Total T levels came back at 88 at 12pm LH was .7 and fsh was 1.3. All well below values. Rechecked levels twice more before 8am and both were around 220 but free test was always in range at 55. At this point I was in poor shape due to no energy level and a poor diet. So I began the the first journey of trt. I had slight anxiety over starting something like this but reluctantly I continued. </p><p>First TRT trial: January 2014</p><p>200mg of testosterone cypionate every 2 weeks</p><p></p><p>Felt better for a couple months. Summer was here, I was working out a lot and generally happier. About 5 months in I became very irritable, I began having panic attacks out of nowhere. Doc didn't know what was wrong so he took me off it and sent me to an endocrinologist. </p><p></p><p>Second TRT trial with a "specialist" 2015</p><p>150mg testosterone self injected weekly</p><p></p><p>Same. Felt good, lost a bunch of weight, until about 5 months in I began having panic attacks and retaining water. (Mind you, I've never been an anxious person). Throughout my whole experience up to this point I began educating myself. I felt I had the standard symptoms of high estradiol. Doc tested my total estrogen and its was 242. (Normal lab range <120). I asked for arimidex and she told me she doesn't prescribe that because it's a drug for breast cancer. Again, after getting a panic attack 2 days after my shot every week I said enough is enough and stopped it again. She rechecked my labs about 2 months after I stopped and everything returned to normal except my tsh which went up to 5.3. She immediately said I had hypothyroid and put me on levothyroxine. I repeatedly called her over the next few months of horrible side effects I was getting from that drug and she stopped getting back to me. I gained a ton of weight (up to 340lbs) and felt horrible. My GP took me off the drug and 6 weeks later my tsh was 1.6 and I felt great lol. I came to the conclusion I never should of been on it and maybe abruptly stopping the TRT temporarily effected my TSH? Who knows..</p><p></p><p>I just restarted TRT with another doctor that I have been talking with that seemed to know more about it. This will be my last attempt. </p><p></p><p>August 2017 6'7" 320lbs (decent shape, lift quite a bit, some cardio but about 30lbs overweight)</p><p></p><p>Labs before TRT</p><p>Total Testosterone: 223</p><p>Free testosterone: 51.2</p><p>shbg: 10</p><p>E2: 34</p><p>Lh: 2.6</p><p>Fsh: 3.0</p><p>Tsh: 1.8</p><p></p><p>What does this seem like? My lh and fsh are on the low end of normal? So is that secondary hypogonadism? My e2 is on the high end of normal.</p><p></p><p>He started me on 100mg of test cypionate a week and I spit the dose to 50 mg every 3.5 days due to my past with high estrogen. </p><p></p><p>6 week labs: </p><p>Total T: 511</p><p>Free T: 134</p><p>Estradiol: 43</p><p>Felt great for about a month, then started to gain a lot of water weight, lost my libido and energy level went down. </p><p>He just started me on arimidex .5 twice a week last week and lost 10lbs in 72 hrs. He raised my dose to 75mg every 3.5 days and so far I feel better, my face doesn't feel puffy, I lost a whole belt size, and feel generally better. I know I should start some hcg and I will talk with him on my next appointment. </p><p></p><p>So basically my questions are will abruptly stopping trt effect my tsh? Or does being on trt effect your tsh? And is .5mg twice a week anastrozole sufficient for 75mg 2x weekly? Will I be able to come off anastrozole after I drop body fat?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Johnnyv412, post: 82657, member: 16648"] Hello everyone. Short story from my experience from my trt and my protocols. I'm 6'7" and always around 290 lbs. I've always lifted, and stayed pretty athletic and I'm 33 years of age. So in 2014 I went into the doctors office with general symptoms of lethargy and general feelings of just being "unwell." After a slew of blood tests (total T as well) my Total T levels came back at 88 at 12pm LH was .7 and fsh was 1.3. All well below values. Rechecked levels twice more before 8am and both were around 220 but free test was always in range at 55. At this point I was in poor shape due to no energy level and a poor diet. So I began the the first journey of trt. I had slight anxiety over starting something like this but reluctantly I continued. First TRT trial: January 2014 200mg of testosterone cypionate every 2 weeks Felt better for a couple months. Summer was here, I was working out a lot and generally happier. About 5 months in I became very irritable, I began having panic attacks out of nowhere. Doc didn't know what was wrong so he took me off it and sent me to an endocrinologist. Second TRT trial with a "specialist" 2015 150mg testosterone self injected weekly Same. Felt good, lost a bunch of weight, until about 5 months in I began having panic attacks and retaining water. (Mind you, I've never been an anxious person). Throughout my whole experience up to this point I began educating myself. I felt I had the standard symptoms of high estradiol. Doc tested my total estrogen and its was 242. (Normal lab range <120). I asked for arimidex and she told me she doesn't prescribe that because it's a drug for breast cancer. Again, after getting a panic attack 2 days after my shot every week I said enough is enough and stopped it again. She rechecked my labs about 2 months after I stopped and everything returned to normal except my tsh which went up to 5.3. She immediately said I had hypothyroid and put me on levothyroxine. I repeatedly called her over the next few months of horrible side effects I was getting from that drug and she stopped getting back to me. I gained a ton of weight (up to 340lbs) and felt horrible. My GP took me off the drug and 6 weeks later my tsh was 1.6 and I felt great lol. I came to the conclusion I never should of been on it and maybe abruptly stopping the TRT temporarily effected my TSH? Who knows.. I just restarted TRT with another doctor that I have been talking with that seemed to know more about it. This will be my last attempt. August 2017 6'7" 320lbs (decent shape, lift quite a bit, some cardio but about 30lbs overweight) Labs before TRT Total Testosterone: 223 Free testosterone: 51.2 shbg: 10 E2: 34 Lh: 2.6 Fsh: 3.0 Tsh: 1.8 What does this seem like? My lh and fsh are on the low end of normal? So is that secondary hypogonadism? My e2 is on the high end of normal. He started me on 100mg of test cypionate a week and I spit the dose to 50 mg every 3.5 days due to my past with high estrogen. 6 week labs: Total T: 511 Free T: 134 Estradiol: 43 Felt great for about a month, then started to gain a lot of water weight, lost my libido and energy level went down. He just started me on arimidex .5 twice a week last week and lost 10lbs in 72 hrs. He raised my dose to 75mg every 3.5 days and so far I feel better, my face doesn't feel puffy, I lost a whole belt size, and feel generally better. I know I should start some hcg and I will talk with him on my next appointment. So basically my questions are will abruptly stopping trt effect my tsh? Or does being on trt effect your tsh? And is .5mg twice a week anastrozole sufficient for 75mg 2x weekly? Will I be able to come off anastrozole after I drop body fat? [/QUOTE]
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