Trying Defy Restart; Hoping to Be a Unicorn

Xerxes · Feb 20, 2016

After having my first consult with Dr. Saya we've decided to try a restart protocol b/c of my age (35) and the fact that it seemed as if I were secondary to begin with (low FSH and LH before TRT). I've also been on TRT a relatively short time 7-8 months.

I know it might not work, but it's worth a shot. I can always go back to TRT if needed.

Will start on 2 weeks of HCG daily after last T shot then low dose clomid for a month and then test numbers to see if I am responding.

I'll also be taking a compounded pegnenolone+dhea capsule at night to help with sleep anxiety.

I know I will probably not feel great at first, but I am going to try my hardest to be patient and compliant.

I'll share my experiences as I start next week when meds arrive so that maybe they can help someone else in a similar situation.

I am a bit nervous about how I'll feel during the process, but hopeful that maybe I can restart my natural production and work on my mental health.

I know clomid gets a bad rap on forums and message boards, but it seems like Dr. Crisler and Dr. Saya have had some success with low dose clomid and I would love if I could be one of those hard to find unicorns.

Wish me luck!

CoastWatcher · Feb 20, 2016

You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Be patient. All the best.

Vince · Feb 20, 2016

Xerxes, you're in good hands, with Dr. Saya. Good Luck and keep us posted. At age 35 you sure don't want to be on T for the rest of your life, unless there's no other options.

ERO · Feb 20, 2016

Good luck and please do keep us posted on your progress!

trthcg05 · Feb 22, 2016

Unicorned yet? You sound like you are a lot like me and did what I SHOULD have done first. So, I am interested in how things went with you. I want to use Defy, but I am in Louisiana. My testicles are shrinking fast on pellet TRT. If it matters, I am concerned about fertility, so that's legal in LA! I am willing to drive to Houston to get the HCG, if I must. Do you guys know anything about people in LA acquiring HCG successfully?

I also had this : "and the fact that it seemed as if I were secondary to begin with (low FSH and LH before TRT)."

I know I am secondary! Wish I would have researched all this before i agreed to TRT that I can't remove because it's implanted in me.

But, I know now. Will restart in due time and make major changes. I have also lost lots of hair and gained a lot of weight. No fun. Estradiol never went above the 20s on TRT, and I peaked at 1400 Test, but I am having horrible side effects. Strange...