ExcelMale
Menu
Home
What's new
Latest activity
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Videos
Lab Tests
Doctor Finder
Buy Books
About Us
Men’s Health Coaching
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More options
Contact us
Close Menu
Forums
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
TRT to Supraphysiological Levels for Body Building
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="tareload" data-source="post: 216449"><p>I take it you don't want to read/review/analyze/pick apart/make your own conclusions on the sizeable amount of material I provided above on myself as well as data from the scientific literature?</p><p></p><p>Have you opened and read any of the links I shared above? My experience I detailed above is important for me but perhaps not applicable for the OP. Have you taken a gander at some of the rodent studies I shared, then calculated an HED, then estimated serum TT levels based on the PK model data in the literature? Is it perfect, no. Does it give one pause? I should hope so.</p><p></p><p>Am I going to share a detailed RCT study showing the effects of 1200 ng/dl TT for a representative sample of men over 1, 5 and 10 years? No, that study doesn't exist.</p><p></p><p>It's not just what dosage, it's what dosage for what individual. Given what we know about math and statistics, its easy to show that most dudes on here never touched 1200 ng/dl at 18 to 20 years old. Now in their 30s and 40s, they are given T regimens to put them at 1500 ng/dl peak and 800 or 900 ng/dl trough or higher. Regarding your point about advice given on here, I'll reiterate my comment about what's physiological for a given individual or even what was physiological for an individual at 20 years of age. Caution does seem to be in order.</p><p></p><p>Edit:</p><p>====</p><p>[USER=42549]@Dicky[/USER] sorry I didn't answer your question sooner. See below.</p><p>====</p><p>BTW, full disclosure I am currently at 60 mg/ week TC (about 800 ng/dl TT peak and 400 ng/dl trough) and my exercise capacity and arrythmia seems to have improved. I am interested in doing another echo in 6 months to see if there's any heart remodeling of the diastolic dysfunction that was picked up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tareload, post: 216449"] I take it you don't want to read/review/analyze/pick apart/make your own conclusions on the sizeable amount of material I provided above on myself as well as data from the scientific literature? Have you opened and read any of the links I shared above? My experience I detailed above is important for me but perhaps not applicable for the OP. Have you taken a gander at some of the rodent studies I shared, then calculated an HED, then estimated serum TT levels based on the PK model data in the literature? Is it perfect, no. Does it give one pause? I should hope so. Am I going to share a detailed RCT study showing the effects of 1200 ng/dl TT for a representative sample of men over 1, 5 and 10 years? No, that study doesn't exist. It's not just what dosage, it's what dosage for what individual. Given what we know about math and statistics, its easy to show that most dudes on here never touched 1200 ng/dl at 18 to 20 years old. Now in their 30s and 40s, they are given T regimens to put them at 1500 ng/dl peak and 800 or 900 ng/dl trough or higher. Regarding your point about advice given on here, I'll reiterate my comment about what's physiological for a given individual or even what was physiological for an individual at 20 years of age. Caution does seem to be in order. Edit: ==== [USER=42549]@Dicky[/USER] sorry I didn't answer your question sooner. See below. ==== BTW, full disclosure I am currently at 60 mg/ week TC (about 800 ng/dl TT peak and 400 ng/dl trough) and my exercise capacity and arrythmia seems to have improved. I am interested in doing another echo in 6 months to see if there's any heart remodeling of the diastolic dysfunction that was picked up. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Share this page
Facebook
Twitter
Reddit
Pinterest
Tumblr
WhatsApp
Email
Share
Link
Sponsors
Forums
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
TRT to Supraphysiological Levels for Body Building
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top