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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
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Trough Levels - Propionate vs Cypionate - Graph results?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 187180" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>It is in part a result of using more testosterone for propionate, which raises all those values, including the troughs. The daily dose of propionate should be more like 14 mg to match 60 mg E3.5D of cypionate. Even with this correction there is still some problem with the plotter; 14 mg propionate should yield an average release of 11.2 mg testosterone per day using their—incorrect—figure of 80% testosterone content. Instead, on the graph it looks closer to 14 mg.</p><p></p><p>In any case, the main question relates to how the injection interval compares to the drug half-life. It is this ratio that determines how much variation there is in released testosterone over the injection interval. The greater this ratio the greater the swing. In your example the ratio for propionate is 1 day / 0.8 days = 1.25. The ratio for cypionate is 3.5 days / 5 days = 0.70. So the bigger swing is indeed expected with propionate—higher peaks and lower troughs, same average at same T dose. If you took the injection interval for cypionate up to a week then cypionate would have greater variation: 7 days / 5 days = 1.40.</p><p></p><p>If you're looking for a blanket statement: In comparing propionate to any ester with a longer half-life, if the same injection interval and same total dose of testosterone are used then propionate will always create higher peaks and lower troughs in serum testosterone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 187180, member: 38109"] It is in part a result of using more testosterone for propionate, which raises all those values, including the troughs. The daily dose of propionate should be more like 14 mg to match 60 mg E3.5D of cypionate. Even with this correction there is still some problem with the plotter; 14 mg propionate should yield an average release of 11.2 mg testosterone per day using their—incorrect—figure of 80% testosterone content. Instead, on the graph it looks closer to 14 mg. In any case, the main question relates to how the injection interval compares to the drug half-life. It is this ratio that determines how much variation there is in released testosterone over the injection interval. The greater this ratio the greater the swing. In your example the ratio for propionate is 1 day / 0.8 days = 1.25. The ratio for cypionate is 3.5 days / 5 days = 0.70. So the bigger swing is indeed expected with propionate—higher peaks and lower troughs, same average at same T dose. If you took the injection interval for cypionate up to a week then cypionate would have greater variation: 7 days / 5 days = 1.40. If you're looking for a blanket statement: In comparing propionate to any ester with a longer half-life, if the same injection interval and same total dose of testosterone are used then propionate will always create higher peaks and lower troughs in serum testosterone. [/QUOTE]
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