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<blockquote data-quote="billycane" data-source="post: 126357" data-attributes="member: 31073"><p>Hello,</p><p></p><p>This is a rather long post so please bear with me.</p><p></p><p>I'm a 28yo male with a long time history of hypogonadism symptoms, but since I'm overweight I had thought that it all had to do with losing weight. 2 years before I got married I started to feel a heavy loss in libido and some ED. Sadly it has worsened with time and is taking a heavy toll on my marriage. Trying to look for answers I went to my mothers endo, who asked me to do some labs.</p><p></p><p>Results:</p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>6/26/2018</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Cortisol</p></td><td ><p>9.41</p></td><td ><p>5-25</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>257</p></td><td ><p>262-1593</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Free T4</p></td><td ><p>1.24</p></td><td ><p>1.76</p></td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>TSH</p></td><td ><p>1.81</p></td><td ><p>0.4 - 4.000</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>FSH</p></td><td ><p>3.43</p></td><td ><p>1.55 - 9.74</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>11.48</p></td><td ><p>9.1 - 32.20</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>LH</p></td><td ><p>2.18</p></td><td ><p>0.8 - 7.60</p></td></tr></table> She seed that my numbers are low but she tells me that she doesn't want to get me on testosterone injections because I'm looking into conceiving in the near future. So she refers me to my urologist.</p><p></p><p>Note: Meanwhile I go to a friend of mine who is an MD, he tells me to get on test and hcg but I tell him I'd prefer to wait for the uro's diagnosis. He tells me to buy proviron to feel better in the meantime. I take it for a month but didn't feel much better. Only felt I was hitting the gym a little harder.</p><p></p><p>Uro sees the tests. During the checkup he tells me I have a varicocele, tells me to go and do a scan and a sperm check. I do have a varicocele but my sperm count and quality are pretty good.</p><p></p><p>Then he prescribes HCG Monotherapy. 10,000 IU every 15 days.</p><p></p><p>After reading this forum and checking online I figured this was a too high dose, I didn't take it. So looking for more input I went to a good friend of my father who is an endo expert in hormones.</p><p></p><p>He sees the lab results and then orders some more. he also told me that the uro was insane for prescribing that amount of HCG.</p><p></p><p>Results:</p><p></p><p>08/10/2018</p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>254</p></td><td ><p>262 - 1593</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Total Estrogens</p></td><td ><p>96.40 (40-115)</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>5.48</p></td><td ><p>9.10 -32.20</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>26.80</p></td><td ><p>10 - 57</p></td></tr></table> So he tells me I have a serious aromatase issue combined with my testes not producing testosterone. I did have serious gyno as a child which I had to get removed. So I believe him.</p><p></p><p>He then indicates 1mg Arimidex ED (!) and after 15 days begin Clomid 50mg ED.</p><p></p><p>The first days with the arimidex I felt great, my mood was extremely good, I felt happy and nothing got me sad, I'm having a rough time at work so It was amazing. But Libido was the same, still low.</p><p></p><p>After I added the clomid I feld like crap, completely depressed and even suicidal. I called the endo and he told me to stop taking it and only take the arimidex.</p><p></p><p>After a while I told him I wasn't feeling that much better so we did some more labs:</p><p></p><p>Note: I added estradiol myself to the indication because i was curious about it.</p><p>Note2: We don't have a sensitive test in my country</p><p>09/11/2018</p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>496</p></td><td ><p>262 - 1593</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Total Estrogens</p></td><td ><p>97</p></td><td ><p>40 - 115</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Estradiol</p></td><td ><p>15.04</p></td><td ><p>5.37 - 65.90</p></td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr></table> After seeing the results he only said my test levels are better but the aromatase is still harming e, he looked at the total estrogens and told me that will only get better when I lose weight.</p><p></p><p>I'm 6'3" 300lb. But I got married with 250lb and still felt like crap.</p><p></p><p>As of last week I stopped taking arimidex as I was not feeling the effects anymore. I went back to my friend who told me about the test + hcg and he told me we could do a TRT program but now my wife doesn't want to because she thinks it should be prescribed by an endo or a uro (she's an M.D)</p><p></p><p>So basically I don't know what to do right now. Has someone been in the same situation? What could you suggest? I really want to feel better and save my marriage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billycane, post: 126357, member: 31073"] Hello, This is a rather long post so please bear with me. I'm a 28yo male with a long time history of hypogonadism symptoms, but since I'm overweight I had thought that it all had to do with losing weight. 2 years before I got married I started to feel a heavy loss in libido and some ED. Sadly it has worsened with time and is taking a heavy toll on my marriage. Trying to look for answers I went to my mothers endo, who asked me to do some labs. Results: [TABLE][TR][TD] 6/26/2018 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Cortisol [/TD] [TD] 9.41 [/TD][TD] 5-25 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Total Testosterone [/TD][TD] 257 [/TD][TD] 262-1593 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Free T4 [/TD] [TD] 1.24 [/TD] [TD] 1.76 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] TSH [/TD][TD] 1.81 [/TD][TD] 0.4 - 4.000 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] FSH [/TD][TD] 3.43 [/TD][TD] 1.55 - 9.74 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Free Testosterone [/TD][TD] 11.48 [/TD][TD] 9.1 - 32.20 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] LH [/TD][TD] 2.18 [/TD][TD] 0.8 - 7.60 [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] She seed that my numbers are low but she tells me that she doesn't want to get me on testosterone injections because I'm looking into conceiving in the near future. So she refers me to my urologist. Note: Meanwhile I go to a friend of mine who is an MD, he tells me to get on test and hcg but I tell him I'd prefer to wait for the uro's diagnosis. He tells me to buy proviron to feel better in the meantime. I take it for a month but didn't feel much better. Only felt I was hitting the gym a little harder. Uro sees the tests. During the checkup he tells me I have a varicocele, tells me to go and do a scan and a sperm check. I do have a varicocele but my sperm count and quality are pretty good. Then he prescribes HCG Monotherapy. 10,000 IU every 15 days. After reading this forum and checking online I figured this was a too high dose, I didn't take it. So looking for more input I went to a good friend of my father who is an endo expert in hormones. He sees the lab results and then orders some more. he also told me that the uro was insane for prescribing that amount of HCG. Results: 08/10/2018 [TABLE][TR][TD] Total Testosterone [/TD][TD] 254 [/TD][TD] 262 - 1593 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Total Estrogens [/TD][TD] 96.40 (40-115) [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Free Testosterone [/TD][TD] 5.48 [/TD][TD] 9.10 -32.20 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] SHBG [/TD][TD] 26.80 [/TD][TD] 10 - 57 [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] So he tells me I have a serious aromatase issue combined with my testes not producing testosterone. I did have serious gyno as a child which I had to get removed. So I believe him. He then indicates 1mg Arimidex ED (!) and after 15 days begin Clomid 50mg ED. The first days with the arimidex I felt great, my mood was extremely good, I felt happy and nothing got me sad, I'm having a rough time at work so It was amazing. But Libido was the same, still low. After I added the clomid I feld like crap, completely depressed and even suicidal. I called the endo and he told me to stop taking it and only take the arimidex. After a while I told him I wasn't feeling that much better so we did some more labs: Note: I added estradiol myself to the indication because i was curious about it. Note2: We don't have a sensitive test in my country 09/11/2018 [TABLE][TR][TD] Total Testosterone [/TD][TD] 496 [/TD][TD] 262 - 1593 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Total Estrogens [/TD][TD] 97 [/TD][TD] 40 - 115 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Estradiol [/TD][TD] 15.04 [/TD][TD] 5.37 - 65.90 [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] After seeing the results he only said my test levels are better but the aromatase is still harming e, he looked at the total estrogens and told me that will only get better when I lose weight. I'm 6'3" 300lb. But I got married with 250lb and still felt like crap. As of last week I stopped taking arimidex as I was not feeling the effects anymore. I went back to my friend who told me about the test + hcg and he told me we could do a TRT program but now my wife doesn't want to because she thinks it should be prescribed by an endo or a uro (she's an M.D) So basically I don't know what to do right now. Has someone been in the same situation? What could you suggest? I really want to feel better and save my marriage. [/QUOTE]
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