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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Treating Low Testosterone with Clomid, hCG and Aromatase Inhibitors: A Review of the Data
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<blockquote data-quote="DS3" data-source="post: 175765" data-attributes="member: 18514"><p>I found one study conducted by <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><a href="https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#" target="_blank"><u>Ranjith Ramasamy</u></a><u>, <a href="https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#" target="_blank">Jason M. Scovell</a>, <a href="https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#" target="_blank">Jason R. Kovac</a>, <a href="https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#" target="_blank">Larry I. Lipshultz</a>. </u></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><u></u></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><u>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089[/URL]</u></span></p><p></p><p>What is interesting is how they note that subjective differences in treatment outcomes were not observed.</p><p></p><p>However, 2014 was the same year that I went to Dr. Lipshultz to start TRT.</p><p></p><p>After HCG/Clomid therapy for 4 months, he asked me how I was feeling subjectively (including energy, libido, drive, strength, etc.), to which I replied negatively as I didn't feel well. He told me, "Yea, that's what a lot of patients tell me. It just doesn't seem like the Clomid and/or HCG creates the same subjective experience that exogenous T creates."</p><p></p><p>Interesting how he acknowledged that, anecdotally, a sizeable portion of his patients who he has originally put on the HCG/Clomid combo (or Clomid mono) do not report positive symptom relief, yet the study he helped conduct determined there was no subjective difference.</p><p></p><p>Really leads me to say, "Hmm...is it just that their sample wasn't fully representative of the average male experience on various forms of TRT? Were there flaws in the study? Or is there some underlying agenda inherent with how the study was conducted/reported?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DS3, post: 175765, member: 18514"] I found one study conducted by [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][URL='https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#'][U]Ranjith Ramasamy[/U][/URL][U], [URL='https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#']Jason M. Scovell[/URL], [URL='https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#']Jason R. Kovac[/URL], [URL='https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089#']Larry I. Lipshultz[/URL]. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2014.03.089[/URL][/U][/COLOR] What is interesting is how they note that subjective differences in treatment outcomes were not observed. However, 2014 was the same year that I went to Dr. Lipshultz to start TRT. After HCG/Clomid therapy for 4 months, he asked me how I was feeling subjectively (including energy, libido, drive, strength, etc.), to which I replied negatively as I didn't feel well. He told me, "Yea, that's what a lot of patients tell me. It just doesn't seem like the Clomid and/or HCG creates the same subjective experience that exogenous T creates." Interesting how he acknowledged that, anecdotally, a sizeable portion of his patients who he has originally put on the HCG/Clomid combo (or Clomid mono) do not report positive symptom relief, yet the study he helped conduct determined there was no subjective difference. Really leads me to say, "Hmm...is it just that their sample wasn't fully representative of the average male experience on various forms of TRT? Were there flaws in the study? Or is there some underlying agenda inherent with how the study was conducted/reported? [/QUOTE]
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