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I hate HCG because of E2 issues but if I don’t take it something doesn’t feel right/complete due to HCG igniting the other hormones. I think the 65mg T twice weekly with 250iu hcg was the best for me but E2 still climbed to 50. I am now trying 200mg of cream with 100iu hcg which is Dr Crislers preferred method of all