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Testosterone Side Effect Management
To "HCG" Or Not "HCG" Two Weeks Into Testosterone Therapy Treatment?
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<blockquote data-quote="WrenchHead80" data-source="post: 128498" data-attributes="member: 17451"><p>Just to clarify, I didn't mean you would be going backwards as far as progress goes. Only meant that when you were planning to do follow-up labs (being the minimum of 6 weeks or longer) you would reset back to week one. I can only see this bothering someone like my old self or others that couldn't wait to see numbers and a difference. I've learned from here myself its more important on how you feel and your symptoms then what your numbers are.</p><p></p><p>I agree with others about nobody's first protocol is usually the one they stick with. I also feel if you have symptoms they should be addressed. If you stay on your current course and your balls are hurting you, why should you suffer for weeks? Your balls aren't going to stop hurting or grow back on their own. So you wait 6 weeks to end up starting on HCG eventually and change your protocol anyways.</p><p></p><p> If I remember LH correctly. I believe in your case it means your brain wasn't sending a strong single to your balls to work more since your number is low. Yours was low like mine. That's why HCG works for me and will probably work for you if you try it. If we had high LH numbers, that would mean are brain was functioning correctly and was yelling at the balls to do something but they couldn't since they were not functioning correctly. I think its these people that HCG doesn't work for. HCG basically mimics LH I believe. Someone fell free to correct me if I'm wrong here.</p><p></p><p>If I was you an based on seeing your labs. I think its smart to stay with the twice a week pins of Test (I think a Monday morning, Thursday evening is considered spaced out equally for a week, You can change the days though). Your dose may not be that off due to you having a higher SHBG (it may move though after starting TRT). Since you have low estradiol, I wouldn't do daily HCG shots. Unless you are feeling symptoms of high estrodiol which I'm assuming your not since you didn't say anything. Why stick yourself everyday if their is no benefit really. HCG will help raise your estradiol which will help you feel better. I'd assume the test is already helping you bump you estradiol up too. I'd try the twice a week of HCG. You could pin it the day before your test pins. Seems the norm is 1000iu's a week of hcg divided by how many days you pin. Few here do 500iu's twice a week. I wouldn't do more then that since I've read a few threads that show your body can only use so much HCG in one shot and 500iu's seems to be that upper limit.</p><p></p><p>I would also look into possible reasons why your RBC, Hemoglobin and Hematocrit are low. You donating blood a lot? May not be anything but I would ask your Dr who is handling your TRT to be on the safe side. They may want to take a stool sample, not sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WrenchHead80, post: 128498, member: 17451"] Just to clarify, I didn't mean you would be going backwards as far as progress goes. Only meant that when you were planning to do follow-up labs (being the minimum of 6 weeks or longer) you would reset back to week one. I can only see this bothering someone like my old self or others that couldn't wait to see numbers and a difference. I've learned from here myself its more important on how you feel and your symptoms then what your numbers are. I agree with others about nobody's first protocol is usually the one they stick with. I also feel if you have symptoms they should be addressed. If you stay on your current course and your balls are hurting you, why should you suffer for weeks? Your balls aren't going to stop hurting or grow back on their own. So you wait 6 weeks to end up starting on HCG eventually and change your protocol anyways. If I remember LH correctly. I believe in your case it means your brain wasn't sending a strong single to your balls to work more since your number is low. Yours was low like mine. That's why HCG works for me and will probably work for you if you try it. If we had high LH numbers, that would mean are brain was functioning correctly and was yelling at the balls to do something but they couldn't since they were not functioning correctly. I think its these people that HCG doesn't work for. HCG basically mimics LH I believe. Someone fell free to correct me if I'm wrong here. If I was you an based on seeing your labs. I think its smart to stay with the twice a week pins of Test (I think a Monday morning, Thursday evening is considered spaced out equally for a week, You can change the days though). Your dose may not be that off due to you having a higher SHBG (it may move though after starting TRT). Since you have low estradiol, I wouldn't do daily HCG shots. Unless you are feeling symptoms of high estrodiol which I'm assuming your not since you didn't say anything. Why stick yourself everyday if their is no benefit really. HCG will help raise your estradiol which will help you feel better. I'd assume the test is already helping you bump you estradiol up too. I'd try the twice a week of HCG. You could pin it the day before your test pins. Seems the norm is 1000iu's a week of hcg divided by how many days you pin. Few here do 500iu's twice a week. I wouldn't do more then that since I've read a few threads that show your body can only use so much HCG in one shot and 500iu's seems to be that upper limit. I would also look into possible reasons why your RBC, Hemoglobin and Hematocrit are low. You donating blood a lot? May not be anything but I would ask your Dr who is handling your TRT to be on the safe side. They may want to take a stool sample, not sure. [/QUOTE]
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