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Tips on how to blend propionate with enanthate (or cypionate)?
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<blockquote data-quote="Willyt" data-source="post: 204359" data-attributes="member: 38668"><p>Quick update. Unfortunately, I had to discontinue my attempt at the blended protocol using Cyp + Prop @ 1.2:1 ratio. </p><p></p><p>Cypionate is my kryptonite due to water retention. In my two previous attempts using only Cypionate (80-100mgs per week), I gained nearly 15 LBS of mostly water weight, which is a lot on my frame. I don't care about the cosmetic aspect. The problem is that water retention wreaks havoc on various aspects of my health. </p><p></p><p>Its a shame because I felt good the first several days of the blended approach and even had a flickering of libido, which I never had with TRT except when first starting out on scrotal cream. However, as the Cypionate started to stack, I began to retain water (again) as the weeks wore on, even at doses as low as 4.5mg cypionate per day (total of 8.2mg blended per day).</p><p></p><p>It makes sense that low-dose daily blend would address many of the side effects that people have experienced on this forum. Keep levels within physiological range negating the need for AI while taking advantage of Prop's "pop" in the morning similar to natural daily hormonal rhythm. </p><p></p><p>I have returned to my Propionate-only protocol of 8-10mg daily. The difference without Cyp is striking. Water gain is near zero. As discussed earlier, the downside is that the daily Prop-only spike comes on a bit strong. </p><p></p><p>I may try blended approach again, but this time with Prop + Enanthate. Not sure if it will make a difference in regards to water retention. There have been many discussions on this forum about the differences (or lack thereof) between the longer esters with a few anecdotal reports of less water retention with Enanthate presumably due to the slightly shorter half-life. Then again, maybe I'll just keep riding the wild mustang Prop!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willyt, post: 204359, member: 38668"] Quick update. Unfortunately, I had to discontinue my attempt at the blended protocol using Cyp + Prop @ 1.2:1 ratio. Cypionate is my kryptonite due to water retention. In my two previous attempts using only Cypionate (80-100mgs per week), I gained nearly 15 LBS of mostly water weight, which is a lot on my frame. I don't care about the cosmetic aspect. The problem is that water retention wreaks havoc on various aspects of my health. Its a shame because I felt good the first several days of the blended approach and even had a flickering of libido, which I never had with TRT except when first starting out on scrotal cream. However, as the Cypionate started to stack, I began to retain water (again) as the weeks wore on, even at doses as low as 4.5mg cypionate per day (total of 8.2mg blended per day). It makes sense that low-dose daily blend would address many of the side effects that people have experienced on this forum. Keep levels within physiological range negating the need for AI while taking advantage of Prop's "pop" in the morning similar to natural daily hormonal rhythm. I have returned to my Propionate-only protocol of 8-10mg daily. The difference without Cyp is striking. Water gain is near zero. As discussed earlier, the downside is that the daily Prop-only spike comes on a bit strong. I may try blended approach again, but this time with Prop + Enanthate. Not sure if it will make a difference in regards to water retention. There have been many discussions on this forum about the differences (or lack thereof) between the longer esters with a few anecdotal reports of less water retention with Enanthate presumably due to the slightly shorter half-life. Then again, maybe I'll just keep riding the wild mustang Prop! [/QUOTE]
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