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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Thoughts on adrenal suport
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<blockquote data-quote="Vettester Chris" data-source="post: 58097" data-attributes="member: 696"><p>There's probably umpteen talking points here, but I'll keep it to minimum ...</p><p></p><p>On your cortisol test, did you also get a DHEA correlation lab taken? Any discussion with the doctor (or anyone) on the various stages of Adrenal Fatigue/Exhaustion? Elevated PM cortisol is usually found in the earlier stages of fatigue; Stage 2 adapted w/DHEA Slump, Stage 3 -Maladapted Phase 1 ... Not saying this is your exact situation, as other variables could/might be in play with the cortex, axis, etc., but it gives you something to research and get familiar with. </p><p></p><p>Your mid-range cortisol values are good IMO, obviously the AM & PM are off. AM 'should' be right at the top of the reference, PM should be towards the middle-to-mid lower end of reference range, which that one is really high. So yes, it would make sense why sleep is problematic, and I agree with backing off the thyroid meds until things are squared with the adrenals. T3 pooling will usually result in a higher conversion rate of conversion to Reverse T3, which can explain some of symptoms you felt when on the thyroid medication.</p><p></p><p>On the thyroid ... Did you get your Reverse T3 along side the Free T3 and Free T4? Do you have the lab numbers for these labs plus TPO? How did the TgAb antibodies look?</p><p></p><p>I'll conclude on this, and just keep in mind it's one guy's opinion ... Take a look at the NDT side of thyroid meds, like Armour, ERFA if in Canada, and even compounded NDT's with most hormone pharmacies. Your 100mcg of Syntyroid T4 only synthetic is equal only to about 1 grain of NDT. Usually 1 grain of anything when having Hashi's will just aggravate the situation. Since you're already familiar with STTM, you can find all sorts of info there about effective ways to go about treatments with Hashi's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vettester Chris, post: 58097, member: 696"] There's probably umpteen talking points here, but I'll keep it to minimum ... On your cortisol test, did you also get a DHEA correlation lab taken? Any discussion with the doctor (or anyone) on the various stages of Adrenal Fatigue/Exhaustion? Elevated PM cortisol is usually found in the earlier stages of fatigue; Stage 2 adapted w/DHEA Slump, Stage 3 -Maladapted Phase 1 ... Not saying this is your exact situation, as other variables could/might be in play with the cortex, axis, etc., but it gives you something to research and get familiar with. Your mid-range cortisol values are good IMO, obviously the AM & PM are off. AM 'should' be right at the top of the reference, PM should be towards the middle-to-mid lower end of reference range, which that one is really high. So yes, it would make sense why sleep is problematic, and I agree with backing off the thyroid meds until things are squared with the adrenals. T3 pooling will usually result in a higher conversion rate of conversion to Reverse T3, which can explain some of symptoms you felt when on the thyroid medication. On the thyroid ... Did you get your Reverse T3 along side the Free T3 and Free T4? Do you have the lab numbers for these labs plus TPO? How did the TgAb antibodies look? I'll conclude on this, and just keep in mind it's one guy's opinion ... Take a look at the NDT side of thyroid meds, like Armour, ERFA if in Canada, and even compounded NDT's with most hormone pharmacies. Your 100mcg of Syntyroid T4 only synthetic is equal only to about 1 grain of NDT. Usually 1 grain of anything when having Hashi's will just aggravate the situation. Since you're already familiar with STTM, you can find all sorts of info there about effective ways to go about treatments with Hashi's. [/QUOTE]
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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Thoughts on adrenal suport
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