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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
When Testosterone Is Not Enough
Thinking of trying metformin with TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="dickielongate" data-source="post: 152344" data-attributes="member: 38930"><p>Belief is not involved. I am in the gathering material stage, and no conclusions have been reached. It doesn't take much research to understand this is a polarising subject.</p><p></p><p>'my take' was arrived at by encountering a number of references stating that TSH between 5-10 and T4 in range is classed as subclinical hypothyroidism. For example:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5771276/" target="_blank">Subclinical Hypothyroidism – Whether and When To Start Treatment?</a></p><p></p><p>"As for patients whose values of TSH are from 4.0 to 10.0 mU/l and who make up 90% of the patients with subclinical hypothyroidism, further research is needed to determine the effects of the disorder and levothyroxine therapy on the health."</p><p></p><p>Since you are so sure, I have to take that conviction into account, as I have benefited from your input on more than one occasion. But if you can spare the time to explain your statement, I would certainly appreciate it. Just to repeast myself, I am more than happy to be corrected in my interpretation of my findings.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well I agree we're not looking for miracles. I also agree we don't know enough and therefore I won't be starting any typical treatments until the labs point at that.</p><p></p><p>Regarding cortisol and metformin. The cortisol journey has its own drivers and supposed outcomes, but it's something of interest as a potential factor in thyroid health until ruled out. I would argue there is enough science to keep an open mind. Likewise with metformin, which I am motivated to try for different reasons, it seems clear it could be a factor however minor.</p><p></p><p>For every standard health care message you read stating that the only option is symptom treating drugs for life, there is a counter message claiming that hashimotos went into remission after cutting out gluten or such and such. You have to use experience to look for dogma, snake oil and bias for sure. I don't know the truth yet, but I'm staying open. But my guess is any reversal will involve multiple factors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dickielongate, post: 152344, member: 38930"] Belief is not involved. I am in the gathering material stage, and no conclusions have been reached. It doesn't take much research to understand this is a polarising subject. 'my take' was arrived at by encountering a number of references stating that TSH between 5-10 and T4 in range is classed as subclinical hypothyroidism. For example: [URL="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5771276/"]Subclinical Hypothyroidism – Whether and When To Start Treatment?[/URL] "As for patients whose values of TSH are from 4.0 to 10.0 mU/l and who make up 90% of the patients with subclinical hypothyroidism, further research is needed to determine the effects of the disorder and levothyroxine therapy on the health." Since you are so sure, I have to take that conviction into account, as I have benefited from your input on more than one occasion. But if you can spare the time to explain your statement, I would certainly appreciate it. Just to repeast myself, I am more than happy to be corrected in my interpretation of my findings. Well I agree we're not looking for miracles. I also agree we don't know enough and therefore I won't be starting any typical treatments until the labs point at that. Regarding cortisol and metformin. The cortisol journey has its own drivers and supposed outcomes, but it's something of interest as a potential factor in thyroid health until ruled out. I would argue there is enough science to keep an open mind. Likewise with metformin, which I am motivated to try for different reasons, it seems clear it could be a factor however minor. For every standard health care message you read stating that the only option is symptom treating drugs for life, there is a counter message claiming that hashimotos went into remission after cutting out gluten or such and such. You have to use experience to look for dogma, snake oil and bias for sure. I don't know the truth yet, but I'm staying open. But my guess is any reversal will involve multiple factors. [/QUOTE]
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