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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 204001" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Common symptoms of low/sub-par FT levels are low energy, depressed mood/anxiety, low libido, erectile dysfunction, lack of NPT/spontaneous erections, decrease in muscle/increased adipose.</p><p></p><p>Also, keep in mind that dysfunction thyroid/adrenals can mimic many of the low-t symptoms.</p><p></p><p>Your labs should have included a full thyroid panel/cortisol and SHBG.</p><p></p><p>Knowing where your SHBG sits is critical as it will have a significant impact on TT/FT let alone can dictate what injection frequency may suit one best.</p><p></p><p>As you can clearly see your TT 361 ng/dL is far from optimal and more importantly, your FT level is sub-par (well below mid-range) and it was tested using one of the most accurate assays the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that the low-end reference range for TT was 348 ng/dL up until mid-2017.</p><p></p><p>You would have been barely above that!</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]15412[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Even if you tried cleaning up some of your lifestyle habits it is doubtful that it would have any significant impact on bringing up your levels to make a difference, especially at your age.</p><p></p><p>As Cataceous stated in post #4.....<strong><em>If AM testosterone is this low and other tests are ok then <u>lifestyle improvements may not boost you enough to resolve symptoms</u>. <u>I would try a testosterone nasal gel such as Natesto</u>. <u>At a minimum this should tell you if higher testosterone is beneficial</u>. <u>The big advantage of this delivery method over conventional TRT is that you keep producing your own testosterone and don't experience significant hormonal disruption; regular TRT CAN SUPPRESS MANY IMPORTANT HORMONES</u>.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>This is great advice and I would definitely look into trying out Natesto before jumping on full blow trt as shutting down your HPG-axis is a big move!</p><p></p><p>All other forms of exogenous testosterone will result in significant suppression of the HPG axis.</p><p></p><p>Most on trt are using injections (esterified T) and although very effective too many get caught up in driving TT/FT levels well beyond what would be needed/could ever produce endogenously let alone in their prime (early teens/the late 20s).</p><p></p><p>Too many get caught up one the more T is better mentality spewed on those bro forums.</p><p></p><p>Much more involved when using exogenous testosterone!</p><p></p><p>This can result in many getting caught up struggling on a protocol.</p><p></p><p>If you do decide to jump on injections then the best piece of advice would be to start low and go slow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 204001, member: 13851"] Common symptoms of low/sub-par FT levels are low energy, depressed mood/anxiety, low libido, erectile dysfunction, lack of NPT/spontaneous erections, decrease in muscle/increased adipose. Also, keep in mind that dysfunction thyroid/adrenals can mimic many of the low-t symptoms. Your labs should have included a full thyroid panel/cortisol and SHBG. Knowing where your SHBG sits is critical as it will have a significant impact on TT/FT let alone can dictate what injection frequency may suit one best. As you can clearly see your TT 361 ng/dL is far from optimal and more importantly, your FT level is sub-par (well below mid-range) and it was tested using one of the most accurate assays the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis. Keep in mind that the low-end reference range for TT was 348 ng/dL up until mid-2017. You would have been barely above that! [ATTACH type="full" alt="Screenshot (5893).png"]15412[/ATTACH] Even if you tried cleaning up some of your lifestyle habits it is doubtful that it would have any significant impact on bringing up your levels to make a difference, especially at your age. As Cataceous stated in post #4.....[B][I]If AM testosterone is this low and other tests are ok then [U]lifestyle improvements may not boost you enough to resolve symptoms[/U]. [U]I would try a testosterone nasal gel such as Natesto[/U]. [U]At a minimum this should tell you if higher testosterone is beneficial[/U]. [U]The big advantage of this delivery method over conventional TRT is that you keep producing your own testosterone and don't experience significant hormonal disruption; regular TRT CAN SUPPRESS MANY IMPORTANT HORMONES[/U].[/I][/B] This is great advice and I would definitely look into trying out Natesto before jumping on full blow trt as shutting down your HPG-axis is a big move! All other forms of exogenous testosterone will result in significant suppression of the HPG axis. Most on trt are using injections (esterified T) and although very effective too many get caught up in driving TT/FT levels well beyond what would be needed/could ever produce endogenously let alone in their prime (early teens/the late 20s). Too many get caught up one the more T is better mentality spewed on those bro forums. Much more involved when using exogenous testosterone! This can result in many getting caught up struggling on a protocol. If you do decide to jump on injections then the best piece of advice would be to start low and go slow. [/QUOTE]
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