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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 207042" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p><strong><em>More than that is a WASTE OF TIME.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>For you and the clueless ones.....sure!</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, hormones are in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks TC/TE), and as you should very well know longer when using Sustanon due to the decanoate ester.</p><p></p><p>The body is trying to ADJUST during this transition and it is common for many let alone someone just starting trt to experience ups/downs!</p><p></p><p>Even then after blood levels have stabilized it will take a few months for the body to ADAPT to the new T level.</p><p></p><p>This is the critical time period when one needs to gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.....plain and simple!</p><p></p><p>No one is getting dialed in let alone being able to gauge how effective a protocol is 6-8 weeks in as again hormones are in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) as the body has no idea whether it is coming or going during this transition.....T levels are rising week after week until the new setpoint is reached.</p><p></p><p>The only way the dose of T would need to be increased <u>6 weeks in</u> once blood work has been done is if trough T levels were still too low (highly doubtful) in most cases.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>Also all the experienced TRT doctors asses a protocol on 6-8 weeks after initiating it.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Of course, to not only get an idea of how you feel but also to see where said protocol (dose T/injection frequency) has your trough TT, FT, estradiol, SHBG let alone overall blood markers.</p><p></p><p>If everything is going well and you have achieved sufficient blood levels then the protocol still needs to be given time to truly gauge how you feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms let alone whether one can <u>truly claim whether a protocol was a success or failure</u>!</p><p></p><p>The only time a protocol (dose T) should be tweaked <u>6 weeks in</u> is if there was minimal improvement in symptom relief due to trough levels still being low or in some cases if one was experiencing sides due to trough levels being too high!</p><p></p><p>Not everyone can tolerate running higher T levels.</p><p></p><p>No one can truly claim 6-8 weeks in whether said protocol (dose T/injection frequency) is a <u>true success or failure</u>.</p><p></p><p>I would say you are blowing smoke out your ass!</p><p></p><p>Just so you know many doctors in the know and yes those ones considered on the cutting edge will wait 12 weeks when starting a patient on trt before jumping all over blood work let alone giving the protocol enough time to truly claim whether such was a success or failure.</p><p></p><p>Top it all off that when one is starting trt some of the overall benefits of having healthy T levels take much longer than 3 months.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>Also all the experienced TRT doctors asses a protocol on 6-8 weeks after initiating it.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, a fair number of men especially the ones that lurk on those forums (including you) continue to struggle due to using/relying upon inaccurate assays when testing FT let alone tweaking their protocol every 6 weeks because they do not feel well.....sounds like you.....no?</p><p></p><p>You already got picked apart numerous times on the forum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 207042, member: 13851"] [B][I]More than that is a WASTE OF TIME.[/I][/B] For you and the clueless ones.....sure! Unfortunately, hormones are in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks TC/TE), and as you should very well know longer when using Sustanon due to the decanoate ester. The body is trying to ADJUST during this transition and it is common for many let alone someone just starting trt to experience ups/downs! Even then after blood levels have stabilized it will take a few months for the body to ADAPT to the new T level. This is the critical time period when one needs to gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.....plain and simple! No one is getting dialed in let alone being able to gauge how effective a protocol is 6-8 weeks in as again hormones are in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) as the body has no idea whether it is coming or going during this transition.....T levels are rising week after week until the new setpoint is reached. The only way the dose of T would need to be increased [U]6 weeks in[/U] once blood work has been done is if trough T levels were still too low (highly doubtful) in most cases. [B][I]Also all the experienced TRT doctors asses a protocol on 6-8 weeks after initiating it.[/I][/B] Of course, to not only get an idea of how you feel but also to see where said protocol (dose T/injection frequency) has your trough TT, FT, estradiol, SHBG let alone overall blood markers. If everything is going well and you have achieved sufficient blood levels then the protocol still needs to be given time to truly gauge how you feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms let alone whether one can [U]truly claim whether a protocol was a success or failure[/U]! The only time a protocol (dose T) should be tweaked [U]6 weeks in[/U] is if there was minimal improvement in symptom relief due to trough levels still being low or in some cases if one was experiencing sides due to trough levels being too high! Not everyone can tolerate running higher T levels. No one can truly claim 6-8 weeks in whether said protocol (dose T/injection frequency) is a [U]true success or failure[/U]. I would say you are blowing smoke out your ass! Just so you know many doctors in the know and yes those ones considered on the cutting edge will wait 12 weeks when starting a patient on trt before jumping all over blood work let alone giving the protocol enough time to truly claim whether such was a success or failure. Top it all off that when one is starting trt some of the overall benefits of having healthy T levels take much longer than 3 months. [B][I]Also all the experienced TRT doctors asses a protocol on 6-8 weeks after initiating it.[/I][/B] Unfortunately, a fair number of men especially the ones that lurk on those forums (including you) continue to struggle due to using/relying upon inaccurate assays when testing FT let alone tweaking their protocol every 6 weeks because they do not feel well.....sounds like you.....no? You already got picked apart numerous times on the forum. [/QUOTE]
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