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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 207003" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p><strong><em>Dont forget we have a six months study at 600mg.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>What that one and the one posted below that many on those bro forums tend to dick ride on!</p><p></p><p>LMFAO!</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>post #18</strong></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/has-anyone-tried-this-method-try-it-if-you-dont-feel-good.22924/#post-196748[/URL]</p><p></p><p><strong>Tropicaldaze1950 stated:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em>The only study of supraphysiologic testosterone was dosed up to 600 mg, weekly, and though it was <u>a small study, no ill effects were manifested</u>.</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>My reply:</strong></p><p></p><p>What the one with 43 men.....oh I mean 40 men.....damn I meant the 21 men on testosterone!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes at 600 mg T/week for 10 weeks and unfortunately testosterone levels will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) so how many weeks are the 21 men at steady-state!</p><p></p><p>Definitely not a full 10.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Treatment</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em>The men received either 600 mg of testosterone enanthate in sesame oil or placebo intramuscularly each week for 10 weeks in the Clinical Research Center. This dose is six times higher than the dose usually given as replacement therapy in men with hypogonadism and is therefore supraphysiologic. Doses as high as 300 mg per week have been given to normal men for 16 to 24 weeks without major toxic effects.34</em></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Notice that the dose used in the study is 6X higher than the average dose given (100 mg/week) to men on trt.</p><p></p><p>At least you have some short-term studies using doses in the 300 mg/week range for 16-24 weeks without major toxic effects......keyword being major!</p><p></p><p>You and I both very well know that if a majority of men were put on 300 mg T/week (lower-end supraphysiological) for trt that they would be struggling with sides let alone TT/FT levels would be through the roof.</p><p></p><p>TRT is long-term.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The take-home point!</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Our results in no way justify the use of anabolic-androgenic steroids in sports, because, with <u>extended use, such drugs have potentially serious adverse effects on the cardiovascular system, prostate, lipid metabolism, and insulin sensitivity</u>. Moreover, the use of any performance-enhancing agent in sports raises serious ethical issues. Our findings do, however, raise the possibility that the short-term administration of androgens may have beneficial effects in immobilized patients, during space travel, and in patients with cancer-related cachexia, a disease caused by the human immunodeficiency virus, or other chronic wasting disorders.</em></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 207003, member: 13851"] [B][I]Dont forget we have a six months study at 600mg.[/I][/B] What that one and the one posted below that many on those bro forums tend to dick ride on! LMFAO! [B]post #18[/B] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/has-anyone-tried-this-method-try-it-if-you-dont-feel-good.22924/#post-196748[/URL] [B]Tropicaldaze1950 stated: [I]The only study of supraphysiologic testosterone was dosed up to 600 mg, weekly, and though it was [U]a small study, no ill effects were manifested[/U].[/I] My reply:[/B] What the one with 43 men.....oh I mean 40 men.....damn I meant the 21 men on testosterone! Yes at 600 mg T/week for 10 weeks and unfortunately testosterone levels will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) so how many weeks are the 21 men at steady-state! Definitely not a full 10. [B]Treatment [I]The men received either 600 mg of testosterone enanthate in sesame oil or placebo intramuscularly each week for 10 weeks in the Clinical Research Center. This dose is six times higher than the dose usually given as replacement therapy in men with hypogonadism and is therefore supraphysiologic. Doses as high as 300 mg per week have been given to normal men for 16 to 24 weeks without major toxic effects.34[/I][/B] Notice that the dose used in the study is 6X higher than the average dose given (100 mg/week) to men on trt. At least you have some short-term studies using doses in the 300 mg/week range for 16-24 weeks without major toxic effects......keyword being major! You and I both very well know that if a majority of men were put on 300 mg T/week (lower-end supraphysiological) for trt that they would be struggling with sides let alone TT/FT levels would be through the roof. TRT is long-term. The take-home point! [B][I]Our results in no way justify the use of anabolic-androgenic steroids in sports, because, with [U]extended use, such drugs have potentially serious adverse effects on the cardiovascular system, prostate, lipid metabolism, and insulin sensitivity[/U]. Moreover, the use of any performance-enhancing agent in sports raises serious ethical issues. Our findings do, however, raise the possibility that the short-term administration of androgens may have beneficial effects in immobilized patients, during space travel, and in patients with cancer-related cachexia, a disease caused by the human immunodeficiency virus, or other chronic wasting disorders.[/I][/B] [/QUOTE]
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