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The T:E Ratio - Evaluating My Numbers
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<blockquote data-quote="rhino5169" data-source="post: 74697" data-attributes="member: 14708"><p>Thanks for chiming in.</p><p>Here is what I was taking</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rhino-Jack-Tongkat-Testosterone-Support/dp/B01BHYCCIK/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1497914011&sr=8-1&keywords=rhino+jack" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Rhino-Jack-Tongkat-Testosterone-Support/dp/B01BHYCCIK/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1497914011&sr=8-1&keywords=rhino+jack</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.bulksupplements.com/longjack-extract-powder.html" target="_blank">http://www.bulksupplements.com/longjack-extract-powder.html</a></p><p></p><p>Those 2 along with tribulis and some vitamin D, antioxidants, and at one point mixed in Fadogia but cant remember if that was during the prime time.</p><p></p><p>So Im not positive my point is getting across so here it is just so we're on the same page:</p><p>At that point I had not been taking anything yet as far as Testosterone, HCG, thyroid or anything else prescribed.</p><p>My numbers were off the charts low, though I didnt know that yet because I wasnt getting regular lab work, I wasnt keeping track and even if I was the right tests weren't ordered yet. I had been like this for years, maybe 12-15 since I got diabetes.</p><p>I lost a lot of weight on my own even with being hypothyroid, diabetes, sleep apnea and cardiovascular disease.</p><p>It was a battle, but that battle still isnt over even though Ive come a long way.</p><p>During that time I was taking supplements to help me out. I figured even if it helped 1% that's still 1% better and was taking things day by day.</p><p>At one point I felt that combination was working so I stuck with it and felt better and better until I had that magical sweet spot. It was awesome.</p><p>I ran out of the supplements and decided that if supplements helped to get me there I knew if was possible to feel great then I would try to find the root cause of everything and started my journey from a quack chiropractor 'doctor' to a local holistic and hormone doctor who may have helped somewhat but was limited which led me to this forum and eventually Defy.</p><p>I was generally feeling at the start like a steaming pile of dog crap but felt little better with diet and exercise and was feeling pretty good for someone with all my conditions, definitely better than I was the years prior but knew it should be better. Then those supplements and great few weeks then back to feeling meh.....</p><p></p><p>I am now on TRT with hcg, thyroid, lipo-c and vit B12, and feel a little more energy in that I can work longer days and go to bed later but no where near I should be, no where near I was for those 3 weeks last year when I wasn't even on any RX meds. So point is, I had a starting point last august of a lot lower than now and I got to a much higher level than I am now, and I wasn't on any meds. I am now on the meds and can't get near the same results.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rhino5169, post: 74697, member: 14708"] Thanks for chiming in. Here is what I was taking [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Rhino-Jack-Tongkat-Testosterone-Support/dp/B01BHYCCIK/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1497914011&sr=8-1&keywords=rhino+jack[/URL] [URL]http://www.bulksupplements.com/longjack-extract-powder.html[/URL] Those 2 along with tribulis and some vitamin D, antioxidants, and at one point mixed in Fadogia but cant remember if that was during the prime time. So Im not positive my point is getting across so here it is just so we're on the same page: At that point I had not been taking anything yet as far as Testosterone, HCG, thyroid or anything else prescribed. My numbers were off the charts low, though I didnt know that yet because I wasnt getting regular lab work, I wasnt keeping track and even if I was the right tests weren't ordered yet. I had been like this for years, maybe 12-15 since I got diabetes. I lost a lot of weight on my own even with being hypothyroid, diabetes, sleep apnea and cardiovascular disease. It was a battle, but that battle still isnt over even though Ive come a long way. During that time I was taking supplements to help me out. I figured even if it helped 1% that's still 1% better and was taking things day by day. At one point I felt that combination was working so I stuck with it and felt better and better until I had that magical sweet spot. It was awesome. I ran out of the supplements and decided that if supplements helped to get me there I knew if was possible to feel great then I would try to find the root cause of everything and started my journey from a quack chiropractor 'doctor' to a local holistic and hormone doctor who may have helped somewhat but was limited which led me to this forum and eventually Defy. I was generally feeling at the start like a steaming pile of dog crap but felt little better with diet and exercise and was feeling pretty good for someone with all my conditions, definitely better than I was the years prior but knew it should be better. Then those supplements and great few weeks then back to feeling meh..... I am now on TRT with hcg, thyroid, lipo-c and vit B12, and feel a little more energy in that I can work longer days and go to bed later but no where near I should be, no where near I was for those 3 weeks last year when I wasn't even on any RX meds. So point is, I had a starting point last august of a lot lower than now and I got to a much higher level than I am now, and I wasn't on any meds. I am now on the meds and can't get near the same results. [/QUOTE]
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