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The Health Optimization Doctors RoundTable: High Hematocrit Not Important?
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<blockquote data-quote="Guided_by_Voices" data-source="post: 256818" data-attributes="member: 15235"><p><strong>" included older men with a high incidence of comorbid conditions.22 While this trial only included 209 men, their demographic information is similar in nature to our study, which included a large proportion of men with comorbid conditions."</strong></p><p></p><p>In searching for confounders that these studies presumably should have corrected for (e.g. blood pressure, fasting insulin, sun exposure/vitamin D levels, PUFA exposure, visceral fat, CRP, and numerous others) I found nothing, but I did find the above statement that suggests the study was littered with other health issues and unlikely to be representative of people on this forum.</p><p></p><p>It would also have been interesting to know estrogen levels since estrogen is thought to be somewhat cardio-protective. </p><p></p><p>For those of us that haven't been following this feud, what are the benefits that those arguing for higher levels cite? As I've posted before, having coached people with frailty issues, if higher T/anabolic levels significantly help resolve that issue, the benefits of that alone would likely outweigh any negatives cited here that can't be mitigated by blood donation and basic harm reduction. As someone who (so far) seems to do better with lower T levels I don't pay too much attention to issues with higher levels, but that could change in the future I suppose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guided_by_Voices, post: 256818, member: 15235"] [B]" included older men with a high incidence of comorbid conditions.22 While this trial only included 209 men, their demographic information is similar in nature to our study, which included a large proportion of men with comorbid conditions."[/B] In searching for confounders that these studies presumably should have corrected for (e.g. blood pressure, fasting insulin, sun exposure/vitamin D levels, PUFA exposure, visceral fat, CRP, and numerous others) I found nothing, but I did find the above statement that suggests the study was littered with other health issues and unlikely to be representative of people on this forum. It would also have been interesting to know estrogen levels since estrogen is thought to be somewhat cardio-protective. For those of us that haven't been following this feud, what are the benefits that those arguing for higher levels cite? As I've posted before, having coached people with frailty issues, if higher T/anabolic levels significantly help resolve that issue, the benefits of that alone would likely outweigh any negatives cited here that can't be mitigated by blood donation and basic harm reduction. As someone who (so far) seems to do better with lower T levels I don't pay too much attention to issues with higher levels, but that could change in the future I suppose. [/QUOTE]
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