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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 151382" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>You were on 100 mg/week of test and taking 1mg (2x/week) of an aromatase inhibitor (anastrozole).....my god you must feel like a sack of s**t overall!</p><p></p><p>Not only is your e2 crashed and believe it or not healthy estradiol levels are critical in men as not only can it have a positive effect on ones mood/libido/erectile function/lipids but most importantly healthy levels are needed for beneficial effects on ones............................ brain/cardiovascular/bone/immune health.</p><p></p><p>You definitely need to get off the a.i. and when you retest use the proper e2 sensitive assay (LC/MS-MS).</p><p></p><p>Seeing as your SHBG is low 15 nmol/L you should be injecting smaller doses of testosterone more frequently as in EOD or daily as oppose to a large dose once weekly.....you can start off twice weekly (every 3.5 days) and decide if you eventually need to move to more frequently.</p><p></p><p>Your TT level of 590 ng/dL is by no means high and your FT is just over mid-range mind you it was done using the law-of-mass action equation the Vermeulen calculated method which is inaccurate and if anything Free Testosterone should be tested using the<strong><span style="color: rgb(251, 160, 38)"> gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis</span></strong> or <span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)"><strong>Ultrafiltration</strong></span> or better yet using the newer <span style="font-size: 18px"><strong><a href="https://tru-t.org/" target="_blank">TruT Free Testosterone Calculator by FPT</a></strong>.....</span>which is on par with the accuracy of the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis.</p><p></p><p>How many days after your once weekly 100 mg injection were labs done?.....was it at true trough (7 days later just before your next injection) as one always wants to test at their lowest point in the week to see whether levels are too low/high and if a dose adjustment is needed.</p><p></p><p>If we use the newer calculated <strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">TruT</span></strong> to truly see where your FT level sits than taking your <strong>TT 590 ng/dL,</strong> <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><strong>SHBG 15 nmol/L</strong></span> and<strong><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"> Albumin 4.3 g/dL(mean)</span></strong> than your <strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">FT is 21.82 ng/dL </span>(<span style="color: rgb(251, 160, 38)">just under the mean</span> (mid-range of the reference range <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">16-31 ng/dL</span>)</strong></p><p>[ATTACH=full]7667[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>You could definitely bring your TT levels up in order to increase your FT levels but if anything you need to look into injecting smaller doses of T more frequently and you would most likely only need a small increase in overall weekly dose depending on how often you inject.....mind you most can still achieve the same/slightly better TT levels using a slightly lower overall weekly T dose when moving to daily injections.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Men with low/lowish SHBG can get away with running a lower TT level in order to achieve a healthy FT level.</p><p></p><p>To give you an example as you can see when using the newer <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><strong>TruT</strong></span> calculator one with an <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><strong>SHBG of 15 nmol/L</strong></span> would only need to hit a <strong>TT of 824 ng/dL</strong> to have a<strong> <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">FT of 31.01 ng/dL </span>(top of the reference range <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">16-31 ng/dL</span>)</strong></p><p>[ATTACH=full]7669[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>So taking your TT is 590 ng/dL--->824 ng/dL would have your FT levels at the top of the reference range.</p><p></p><p>Most men do well having FT levels in the 25-30 ng/dL range and others feel/do better having levels in the 30-50 ng/dL range.....mind you a good majority do not need to have levels well over the top end of the reference range.</p><p></p><p>Not saying one needs to be at the top of the reference range or higher as some men do better with a mid-range FT level at trough.....but it comes down to the individual and how they feel at said level.....let alone what level of FT one can run in order to reap the benefits of T as in improvement/relief of low-t symptoms (mood/energy/libido/erectile function/recovery) while at the same time minimizing/avoiding any potential side-effects.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 151382, member: 13851"] You were on 100 mg/week of test and taking 1mg (2x/week) of an aromatase inhibitor (anastrozole).....my god you must feel like a sack of s**t overall! Not only is your e2 crashed and believe it or not healthy estradiol levels are critical in men as not only can it have a positive effect on ones mood/libido/erectile function/lipids but most importantly healthy levels are needed for beneficial effects on ones............................ brain/cardiovascular/bone/immune health. You definitely need to get off the a.i. and when you retest use the proper e2 sensitive assay (LC/MS-MS). Seeing as your SHBG is low 15 nmol/L you should be injecting smaller doses of testosterone more frequently as in EOD or daily as oppose to a large dose once weekly.....you can start off twice weekly (every 3.5 days) and decide if you eventually need to move to more frequently. Your TT level of 590 ng/dL is by no means high and your FT is just over mid-range mind you it was done using the law-of-mass action equation the Vermeulen calculated method which is inaccurate and if anything Free Testosterone should be tested using the[B][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)] gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis[/COLOR][/B] or [COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)][B]Ultrafiltration[/B][/COLOR] or better yet using the newer [SIZE=18px][B][URL='https://tru-t.org/']TruT Free Testosterone Calculator by FPT[/URL][/B].....[/SIZE]which is on par with the accuracy of the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis. How many days after your once weekly 100 mg injection were labs done?.....was it at true trough (7 days later just before your next injection) as one always wants to test at their lowest point in the week to see whether levels are too low/high and if a dose adjustment is needed. If we use the newer calculated [B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]TruT[/COLOR][/B] to truly see where your FT level sits than taking your [B]TT 590 ng/dL,[/B] [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][B]SHBG 15 nmol/L[/B][/COLOR] and[B][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)] Albumin 4.3 g/dL(mean)[/COLOR][/B] than your [B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]FT is 21.82 ng/dL [/COLOR]([COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]just under the mean[/COLOR] (mid-range of the reference range [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]16-31 ng/dL[/COLOR])[/B] [ATTACH=full]7667[/ATTACH] You could definitely bring your TT levels up in order to increase your FT levels but if anything you need to look into injecting smaller doses of T more frequently and you would most likely only need a small increase in overall weekly dose depending on how often you inject.....mind you most can still achieve the same/slightly better TT levels using a slightly lower overall weekly T dose when moving to daily injections. Men with low/lowish SHBG can get away with running a lower TT level in order to achieve a healthy FT level. To give you an example as you can see when using the newer [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][B]TruT[/B][/COLOR] calculator one with an [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][B]SHBG of 15 nmol/L[/B][/COLOR] would only need to hit a [B]TT of 824 ng/dL[/B] to have a[B] [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]FT of 31.01 ng/dL [/COLOR](top of the reference range [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]16-31 ng/dL[/COLOR])[/B] [ATTACH=full]7669[/ATTACH] So taking your TT is 590 ng/dL--->824 ng/dL would have your FT levels at the top of the reference range. Most men do well having FT levels in the 25-30 ng/dL range and others feel/do better having levels in the 30-50 ng/dL range.....mind you a good majority do not need to have levels well over the top end of the reference range. Not saying one needs to be at the top of the reference range or higher as some men do better with a mid-range FT level at trough.....but it comes down to the individual and how they feel at said level.....let alone what level of FT one can run in order to reap the benefits of T as in improvement/relief of low-t symptoms (mood/energy/libido/erectile function/recovery) while at the same time minimizing/avoiding any potential side-effects. [/QUOTE]
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