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Testosterone Cypionate vs Testosterone Undecanoate
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<blockquote data-quote="BigTex" data-source="post: 253502" data-attributes="member: 43589"><p>I was put on test cypionate over a year ago by my doctor. I have years worth the records of the time I spend using testosterone undecanoate. I always did good on this and the last dosage was 750mg IM every 4 weeks (test -780). My blood work was always in the normal range. Since getting on the test cypionate everything went crazy. Test level too high, and Hemoglobin and HCT through the roof. I was doing 40mg every 5 days sub-q. I told my doctor I was going to stop the cypionate and go back to TU and he was not so excited but I did it anyway. I don't really need a doctor to get what ever I want and he knows it. So I was hoping after the past 3 months everything would be fine and I would not look like to my doctor a pompous ass. Below is the test I did 2 days ago before I see the doctor in June.</p><p></p><p>Not worried at all about the creatinine, EGFR or ALT. I am taking a supplement with 1g of creatine in it and lift weights 4-5 days a week ever intensely for around 1 hour a session. I am concerned about the Glucose because I eat 650-700g of carbohydrates/d with 5700+ calories. I am also concerned that my guess at a TU dose did not screw up HCT and hemoglobin. Based on this test I will know if 40mg of TU every 4 weeks is good or I can go slightly higher.</p><p></p><p><strong>COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL Analyte Value</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>GLUCOSE 87</strong> Reference Range: 65-99 mg/dL Fasting reference interval</p><p>UREA NITROGEN (BUN) 20 Reference Range: 7-25 mg/dL</p><p><strong>CREATININE 1.41 H</strong> Reference Range: 0.70-1.35 mg/dL</p><p><strong>EGFR 55 L </strong>Reference Range: > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2</p><p>BUN/CREATININE RATIO 14 Reference Range: 6-22 (calc)</p><p>SODIUM 141 Reference Range: 135-146 mmol/L</p><p>POTASSIUM 4.2 Reference Range: 3.5-5.3 mmol/L</p><p>CHLORIDE 98 Reference Range: 98-110 mmol/L</p><p><strong>CARBON DIOXIDE 35 H</strong> Reference Range: 20-32 mmol/L</p><p>CALCIUM 9.9 Reference Range: 8.6-10.3 mg/dL</p><p>PROTEIN, TOTAL 6.8 Reference Range: 6.1-8.1 g/dL</p><p>ALBUMIN 4.0 Reference Range: 3.6-5.1 g/dL</p><p>GLOBULIN 2.8 Reference Range: 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc)</p><p>ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO 1.4 Reference Range: 1.0-2.5 (calc)</p><p>BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 0.6 Reference Range: 0.2-1.2 mg/dL</p><p>ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 62 Reference Range: 35-144 U/L</p><p>AST 34 Reference Range: 10-35 U/L</p><p><strong>ALT 52 H</strong> Reference Range: 9-46 U/L</p><p></p><p><strong>CBC (H/H, RBC, INDICES, WBC, PLT) Analyte Value</strong></p><p></p><p>WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 6.8 Reference Range: 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL</p><p>RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 5.45 Reference Range: 4.20-5.80 Million/uL</p><p><strong>HEMOGLOBIN 17.3 H</strong> Reference Range: 13.2-17.1 g/dL</p><p><strong>HEMATOCRIT 50.9 H</strong> Reference Range: 38.5-50.0 % MCV 93.4 Reference Range: 80.0-100.0 fL</p><p></p><p><strong>TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MS 355</strong> Reference Range: 250-1100 ng/dL</p><p></p><p><strong>TESTOSTERONE, FREE 35.6 </strong>Reference Range: 35.0-155.0 pg/mL</p><p></p><p><strong>History of blood work</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Hemoglobin</strong></p><p>high - 20.3</p><p>when I stopped TC - 18.3</p><p>now - 17.3</p><p></p><p><strong>HCT</strong></p><p>high - 58.5 (4-18-22)</p><p>when I stopped TC - 53.9 (1-17-23)</p><p>now - 50.9 (5-11-23)</p><p></p><p><strong>Testosterone</strong></p><p>high - 2103</p><p>when I stopped TC - 934</p><p>now - 355</p><p></p><p>Well I certainly didn't screw up anything and in fact, things slightly improved. I am thinking I want to go up from 40mg every 5 days to 50mg, every 5 days and see where that puts me on the above. I would like to see the testosterone up to maybe ~600 as well as the free up more. I feel a little off right now but it is steady, no ups and downs. The libido is not so good either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigTex, post: 253502, member: 43589"] I was put on test cypionate over a year ago by my doctor. I have years worth the records of the time I spend using testosterone undecanoate. I always did good on this and the last dosage was 750mg IM every 4 weeks (test -780). My blood work was always in the normal range. Since getting on the test cypionate everything went crazy. Test level too high, and Hemoglobin and HCT through the roof. I was doing 40mg every 5 days sub-q. I told my doctor I was going to stop the cypionate and go back to TU and he was not so excited but I did it anyway. I don't really need a doctor to get what ever I want and he knows it. So I was hoping after the past 3 months everything would be fine and I would not look like to my doctor a pompous ass. Below is the test I did 2 days ago before I see the doctor in June. Not worried at all about the creatinine, EGFR or ALT. I am taking a supplement with 1g of creatine in it and lift weights 4-5 days a week ever intensely for around 1 hour a session. I am concerned about the Glucose because I eat 650-700g of carbohydrates/d with 5700+ calories. I am also concerned that my guess at a TU dose did not screw up HCT and hemoglobin. Based on this test I will know if 40mg of TU every 4 weeks is good or I can go slightly higher. [B]COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL Analyte Value GLUCOSE 87[/B] Reference Range: 65-99 mg/dL Fasting reference interval UREA NITROGEN (BUN) 20 Reference Range: 7-25 mg/dL [B]CREATININE 1.41 H[/B] Reference Range: 0.70-1.35 mg/dL [B]EGFR 55 L [/B]Reference Range: > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2 BUN/CREATININE RATIO 14 Reference Range: 6-22 (calc) SODIUM 141 Reference Range: 135-146 mmol/L POTASSIUM 4.2 Reference Range: 3.5-5.3 mmol/L CHLORIDE 98 Reference Range: 98-110 mmol/L [B]CARBON DIOXIDE 35 H[/B] Reference Range: 20-32 mmol/L CALCIUM 9.9 Reference Range: 8.6-10.3 mg/dL PROTEIN, TOTAL 6.8 Reference Range: 6.1-8.1 g/dL ALBUMIN 4.0 Reference Range: 3.6-5.1 g/dL GLOBULIN 2.8 Reference Range: 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc) ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO 1.4 Reference Range: 1.0-2.5 (calc) BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 0.6 Reference Range: 0.2-1.2 mg/dL ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 62 Reference Range: 35-144 U/L AST 34 Reference Range: 10-35 U/L [B]ALT 52 H[/B] Reference Range: 9-46 U/L [B]CBC (H/H, RBC, INDICES, WBC, PLT) Analyte Value[/B] WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 6.8 Reference Range: 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 5.45 Reference Range: 4.20-5.80 Million/uL [B]HEMOGLOBIN 17.3 H[/B] Reference Range: 13.2-17.1 g/dL [B]HEMATOCRIT 50.9 H[/B] Reference Range: 38.5-50.0 % MCV 93.4 Reference Range: 80.0-100.0 fL [B]TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MS 355[/B] Reference Range: 250-1100 ng/dL [B]TESTOSTERONE, FREE 35.6 [/B]Reference Range: 35.0-155.0 pg/mL [B]History of blood work Hemoglobin[/B] high - 20.3 when I stopped TC - 18.3 now - 17.3 [B]HCT[/B] high - 58.5 (4-18-22) when I stopped TC - 53.9 (1-17-23) now - 50.9 (5-11-23) [B]Testosterone[/B] high - 2103 when I stopped TC - 934 now - 355 Well I certainly didn't screw up anything and in fact, things slightly improved. I am thinking I want to go up from 40mg every 5 days to 50mg, every 5 days and see where that puts me on the above. I would like to see the testosterone up to maybe ~600 as well as the free up more. I feel a little off right now but it is steady, no ups and downs. The libido is not so good either. [/QUOTE]
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