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Testing HCG potency with pregnancy test / Buying HCG in liquid form
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<blockquote data-quote="dickielongate" data-source="post: 204521" data-attributes="member: 38930"><p>Thanks, I would have guessed it wouldn't have been an issue.</p><p></p><p>Also, since I wasn't very specific and you said it might be useful, I wanted to provide a more precise description of the test procedure in case someone else can use this.</p><p></p><p>The idea is to get a simulated urine sample in the range specified by your pregnancy test, in my case this was 10 mIU/ml, which I believe is on the sensitive end. We don't our fake urine too strong, otherwise even weak stuff will just ace the test, so we need to shoot for a strength over the minimum, but not by too much.</p><p></p><p>To avoid having to mix huge amounts of our fake urine, we will 'double dilute' the hCG mix, that is dilute, then dilute again into the same mount.</p><p></p><p>You need to jot down :</p><p></p><p>- How much hCG you have in IUs (h)</p><p>- How much bacteriostatic water this is diluted in (w)</p><p>- What volume of water you will double dilute your hCG in to test (d)</p><p>- Test solution strength you are shooting for in mIUs (t)</p><p>- How much water you will use for your double dilution, (d), in this case we will use 50ml</p><p></p><p>Then you can use this formula to determine the sample size in ml (s)</p><p></p><p>s = (t*w*d*d) / 1000 * h</p><p></p><p>For example, you have 5000 IUs in 3ml of water and will double dilute into 50ml. You are shooting for a fake urine strength of 33.33 mIU/ml, so:</p><p></p><p>s = (33.33*3*50*50) / 1000 * 5000</p><p>s = 0.05 ml, or half a tenth of a ml, easy enough to measure on a 1ml syringe, not too much wasted.</p><p></p><p>So to action the test, you would take 0.05 ml of your premixed hCG, and dilute this in 50ml of plain water. Next take 1ml of this new mixture, and dilute that into 50ml of water. Now you have your fake urine, and can test it with the pregnancy test kit. You should expect something less than a solid bar with the numbers used here.</p><p></p><p>It is also possible to start with a sample size set, and tune in your double dilution volume, but the formula is not so fun (sqr = square root):</p><p></p><p>d = 31.6 * sqr((s * h))* sqr((t*w))</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps someone - I am really liking my ability to test hCG potency now. I just bought some (powdered this time) from a new supplier, and was comforted to know it at least contained some hCG, even if it was a bit weak. </p><p></p><p>BTW, I chose the example of 5000 IUs in 3ml of water because this is how I dose, giving me 166.7 IUs per day, and meaning you can buy the 5000 IU stuff, which is cheaper, and it doesn't expire because it runs out after a month. I use this on a 333 IU EOD basis. Having tried TRT, I can honestly say just hCG + exemestane (aromasin, 12mg EOD) ticks all the boxes and just works, at least for the past year. I can't see me injecting T again. It is my view (probably uninformed) that more TRT providers should encourage men to try this before going with T</p><p></p><p>The real formulas need a small tweak on the dilution volumes, but it makes it more of a fiddle and doesn't change anything so I left it out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dickielongate, post: 204521, member: 38930"] Thanks, I would have guessed it wouldn't have been an issue. Also, since I wasn't very specific and you said it might be useful, I wanted to provide a more precise description of the test procedure in case someone else can use this. The idea is to get a simulated urine sample in the range specified by your pregnancy test, in my case this was 10 mIU/ml, which I believe is on the sensitive end. We don't our fake urine too strong, otherwise even weak stuff will just ace the test, so we need to shoot for a strength over the minimum, but not by too much. To avoid having to mix huge amounts of our fake urine, we will 'double dilute' the hCG mix, that is dilute, then dilute again into the same mount. You need to jot down : - How much hCG you have in IUs (h) - How much bacteriostatic water this is diluted in (w) - What volume of water you will double dilute your hCG in to test (d) - Test solution strength you are shooting for in mIUs (t) - How much water you will use for your double dilution, (d), in this case we will use 50ml Then you can use this formula to determine the sample size in ml (s) s = (t*w*d*d) / 1000 * h For example, you have 5000 IUs in 3ml of water and will double dilute into 50ml. You are shooting for a fake urine strength of 33.33 mIU/ml, so: s = (33.33*3*50*50) / 1000 * 5000 s = 0.05 ml, or half a tenth of a ml, easy enough to measure on a 1ml syringe, not too much wasted. So to action the test, you would take 0.05 ml of your premixed hCG, and dilute this in 50ml of plain water. Next take 1ml of this new mixture, and dilute that into 50ml of water. Now you have your fake urine, and can test it with the pregnancy test kit. You should expect something less than a solid bar with the numbers used here. It is also possible to start with a sample size set, and tune in your double dilution volume, but the formula is not so fun (sqr = square root): d = 31.6 * sqr((s * h))* sqr((t*w)) Hope this helps someone - I am really liking my ability to test hCG potency now. I just bought some (powdered this time) from a new supplier, and was comforted to know it at least contained some hCG, even if it was a bit weak. BTW, I chose the example of 5000 IUs in 3ml of water because this is how I dose, giving me 166.7 IUs per day, and meaning you can buy the 5000 IU stuff, which is cheaper, and it doesn't expire because it runs out after a month. I use this on a 333 IU EOD basis. Having tried TRT, I can honestly say just hCG + exemestane (aromasin, 12mg EOD) ticks all the boxes and just works, at least for the past year. I can't see me injecting T again. It is my view (probably uninformed) that more TRT providers should encourage men to try this before going with T The real formulas need a small tweak on the dilution volumes, but it makes it more of a fiddle and doesn't change anything so I left it out. [/QUOTE]
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