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Switching from sustanon to enanthate
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<blockquote data-quote="ivkonst2017" data-source="post: 199362" data-attributes="member: 42532"><p>Hello. Im sorry for this but I needed to make a new account, turned out for the old one I have mistaken the email, couldnt resetted my password and then found out I have messed the email. Is it possible some admin to transfer all my opinions from the old account to this one and delete the old?</p><p></p><p>About my protocol - I have done 8 weeks on it. To be honest I felt really awesome in week 5, after that experienced a huge decline in energy and well being and erection quality and started to get some improvements over the last week in all departments. I also had issues with HCG and the quality of the bacteriostatic water(I will make another thread for this issue). As I said in the last week things started to get better. Also in weeks 6 and 7 very oddly I started to feel a surge of energy and libido after injection which made me think I may need to increase the frequency to lets say 3 times a week. But in the last week that disappeared, also the blood work shows very stable levels one day after injection and before the next injection. I guess there might be some fluctuation, but couldnt catch it on paper. I did total t 24h after injection hoping to get the peak, and the detailed blood work just before the next injection with total t as well:</p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>15.04.2021 - 7.5 weeks on 65mg enanthate bi-weekly PEAK, 100 ui HCG daily</p></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>46.58</p></td><td ><p>nmol/l</p></td><td ><p>9.90 - 27.80</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Total Testosterone US Units</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>1353.46</p></td><td ><p>ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>300 - 1500</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>17.04.2021 - 8 weeks on 65mg enanthate bi-weekly TROUGH, 100 ui HCG daily</p></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>50.25</p></td><td ><p>nmol/l</p></td><td ><p>9.90 - 27.80</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Total Testosterone US Units</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>1449</p></td><td ><p>ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>300 - 1500</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Calculated Free Testosteron</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td></td><td ><p>ng/dl</p></td><td></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Албумин</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>45</p></td><td ><p>g/l</p></td><td ><p>35 - 52</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td></td><td ><p>nmol/l</p></td><td ><p>18.30 - 54.10</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Estradiol</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>65.05</p></td><td ><p>ng/L</p></td><td ><p>7.63 - 42.60</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>TSH</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>1.02</p></td><td ><p>µIU/ml</p></td><td ><p>0.27 - 4.20</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Free Т4 (fT4)</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>16.27</p></td><td ><p>ng/l</p></td><td ><p>9.30 - 17</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Free T3 (fT3)</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>3.03</p></td><td ><p>ng/l</p></td><td ><p>2 - 4.40</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Cortisol (morning serum)</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>412.8</p></td><td ><p>nmol/l</p></td><td ><p>133 - 537</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Prolactin</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>313.2</p></td><td ><p>mIU/L</p></td><td ><p>84.80 - 318</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Leukocytes</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>6.69</p></td><td ><p>G/l</p></td><td ><p>3.5 - 10.5</p></td><td ><p>DC+LD</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Erythrocytes</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>5.52</p></td><td ><p>T/l</p></td><td ><p>4.5 - 5.90</p></td><td ><p>DC-det.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Hemoglobin</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>166</p></td><td ><p>g/l</p></td><td ><p>140 - 180</p></td><td ><p>SLS</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Hematocrit</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>0.48</p></td><td ><p>l/l</p></td><td ><p>0.40 - 0.53</p></td><td ><p>calc</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>MCV</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>87.1</p></td><td ><p>fl</p></td><td ><p>80 - 96</p></td><td ><p>Calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>MCH</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>30.1</p></td><td ><p>pg</p></td><td ><p>28 - 33</p></td><td ><p>Calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>MCHC</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>345</p></td><td ><p>g/l</p></td><td ><p>300 - 360</p></td><td ><p>Calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Tromobociti</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>206</p></td><td ><p>G/l</p></td><td ><p>140 - 440</p></td><td ><p>DC-det.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>RDW-SD</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>38.5</p></td><td ><p>fl</p></td><td ><p>35.10 - 43.90</p></td><td ><p>calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>RDW-CV</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>11.9</p></td><td ><p>%</p></td><td ><p>11 - 14.40</p></td><td ><p>calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>PDW</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>11.9</p></td><td ><p>fl</p></td><td ><p>9 - 17</p></td><td ><p>calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>MPV</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>10.4</p></td><td ><p>fl</p></td><td ><p>9.40 - 12.40</p></td><td ><p>calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>P-LCR</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>27.3</p></td><td ><p>%</p></td><td ><p>13 - 43</p></td><td ><p>calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>PCT (tromobokrit)</p></td><td ><p>EB</p></td><td ><p>0.21</p></td><td ><p>l/l</p></td><td ><p>0.17 - 0.35</p></td><td ><p>calc.</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Total Cholesterol (Chol.)</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>4.24</p></td><td ><p>mmol/l</p></td><td ><p>3.5 - 5.20</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>LDL-Cholesterol (LDL-C)</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>2.91</p></td><td ><p>mmol/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 3.35</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Trigleciridi (Tg)</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>0.64</p></td><td ><p>mmol/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 1.70</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Albumin</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>45</p></td><td ><p>g/l</p></td><td ><p>35 - 52</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Bilirubin, total</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p><strong>45.9</strong></p></td><td ><p>µmol/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 21</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Bilirubin, direct</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p><strong>10.7</strong></p></td><td ><p>µmol/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 8.5</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>AsaT</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>15</p></td><td ><p>IU/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 40</p></td><td ><p>IFCC</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>AlaT</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>17</p></td><td ><p>IU/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 41</p></td><td ><p>IFCC</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>GGT</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>11</p></td><td ><p>IU/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 60</p></td><td ><p>IFCC</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Na +</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>136</p></td><td ><p>mmol/l</p></td><td ><p>136 - 145</p></td><td ><p>ISE</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Cl -</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>99</p></td><td ><p>mmol/l</p></td><td ><p>98 - 107</p></td><td ><p>ISE</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Calcium</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>2.3</p></td><td ><p>mmol/l</p></td><td ><p>2.15 - 2.5</p></td><td ><p>CPC</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Magnesium (Mg)</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>0.75</p></td><td ><p>mmol/l</p></td><td ><p>0.66 - 1.07</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Iron</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p><strong>29.5</strong></p></td><td ><p>µmol/l</p></td><td ><p>7.2 - 27.7</p></td><td ><p>PHOT</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>CRP - quantative measurement</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p><1.0</p></td><td ><p>mg/l</p></td><td ><p>0 - 5</p></td><td ><p>TURB</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>PSA</p></td><td ><p>S</p></td><td ><p>0.6</p></td><td ><p>ng/ml</p></td><td ><p>0.01 - 1.40</p></td><td ><p>ECLIA</p></td></tr></table> My total t might be a bit high(I usually have discovered to feel best at 1200-1300) but still I do not see it as enough reason to change protocol and I think sustanon may be YET TO CLEAR completely. As I have read here somewhere it should take around 5 half lives for a compound to clear, which should mean 10 weeks for sustanon, right?</p><p></p><p>I have bolded the blood markers that cause me a bit concern. About the iron - since I have started a few times IM injections it has been slightly elevated. Last time I checked it was 18. I think when I settle enough time on the protocol it should decline again, hopefully. [USER=13851]@madman[/USER] how dangerous you think such levels of iron can be, I hope temporarily?</p><p></p><p>Also about the bilirubin it is a bit of a mystery. No doctor can tell me exactly why it is elevated, I have consulted a few very experienced specialists about this. My endo that has prescribed me TRT and let me to self manage it thinks I may have some birth defect about clearing bilirubin provided my liver enzymes seem fine, I do not drink, eat healthy, have never used recreational drugs and it has been randomly elevated even before TRT, one time it was 10 times the reference range 4 years ago. As medications Im taking 2x500mg metformin(for appetite control purposes, Im not notably IR except being around 22-24 percent body fat) and 2 x 0.250 mg of cabergoline(due to empty cella syndrome, started before TRT). What do you think can be the reason for this bilirubin</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ivkonst2017, post: 199362, member: 42532"] Hello. Im sorry for this but I needed to make a new account, turned out for the old one I have mistaken the email, couldnt resetted my password and then found out I have messed the email. Is it possible some admin to transfer all my opinions from the old account to this one and delete the old? About my protocol - I have done 8 weeks on it. To be honest I felt really awesome in week 5, after that experienced a huge decline in energy and well being and erection quality and started to get some improvements over the last week in all departments. I also had issues with HCG and the quality of the bacteriostatic water(I will make another thread for this issue). As I said in the last week things started to get better. Also in weeks 6 and 7 very oddly I started to feel a surge of energy and libido after injection which made me think I may need to increase the frequency to lets say 3 times a week. But in the last week that disappeared, also the blood work shows very stable levels one day after injection and before the next injection. I guess there might be some fluctuation, but couldnt catch it on paper. I did total t 24h after injection hoping to get the peak, and the detailed blood work just before the next injection with total t as well: [TABLE][TR][TD] 15.04.2021 - 7.5 weeks on 65mg enanthate bi-weekly PEAK, 100 ui HCG daily [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Testosterone [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 46.58 [/TD] [TD] nmol/l [/TD] [TD] 9.90 - 27.80 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Total Testosterone US Units [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 1353.46 [/TD] [TD] ng/dl [/TD] [TD] 300 - 1500 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] 17.04.2021 - 8 weeks on 65mg enanthate bi-weekly TROUGH, 100 ui HCG daily [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Testosterone [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 50.25 [/TD] [TD] nmol/l [/TD] [TD] 9.90 - 27.80 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Total Testosterone US Units [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 1449 [/TD] [TD] ng/dl [/TD] [TD] 300 - 1500 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Calculated Free Testosteron [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] ng/dl [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Албумин [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 45 [/TD] [TD] g/l [/TD] [TD] 35 - 52 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] SHBG [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] nmol/l [/TD] [TD] 18.30 - 54.10 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Estradiol [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 65.05 [/TD] [TD] ng/L [/TD] [TD] 7.63 - 42.60 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] TSH [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 1.02 [/TD] [TD] µIU/ml [/TD] [TD] 0.27 - 4.20 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Free Т4 (fT4) [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 16.27 [/TD] [TD] ng/l [/TD] [TD] 9.30 - 17 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Free T3 (fT3) [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 3.03 [/TD] [TD] ng/l [/TD] [TD] 2 - 4.40 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Cortisol (morning serum) [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 412.8 [/TD] [TD] nmol/l [/TD] [TD] 133 - 537 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Prolactin [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 313.2 [/TD] [TD] mIU/L [/TD] [TD] 84.80 - 318 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Leukocytes [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 6.69 [/TD] [TD] G/l [/TD] [TD] 3.5 - 10.5 [/TD] [TD] DC+LD [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Erythrocytes [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 5.52 [/TD] [TD] T/l [/TD] [TD] 4.5 - 5.90 [/TD] [TD] DC-det. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Hemoglobin [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 166 [/TD] [TD] g/l [/TD] [TD] 140 - 180 [/TD] [TD] SLS [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Hematocrit [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 0.48 [/TD] [TD] l/l [/TD] [TD] 0.40 - 0.53 [/TD] [TD] calc [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] MCV [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 87.1 [/TD] [TD] fl [/TD] [TD] 80 - 96 [/TD] [TD] Calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] MCH [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 30.1 [/TD] [TD] pg [/TD] [TD] 28 - 33 [/TD] [TD] Calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] MCHC [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 345 [/TD] [TD] g/l [/TD] [TD] 300 - 360 [/TD] [TD] Calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Tromobociti [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 206 [/TD] [TD] G/l [/TD] [TD] 140 - 440 [/TD] [TD] DC-det. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] RDW-SD [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 38.5 [/TD] [TD] fl [/TD] [TD] 35.10 - 43.90 [/TD] [TD] calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] RDW-CV [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 11.9 [/TD] [TD] % [/TD] [TD] 11 - 14.40 [/TD] [TD] calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] PDW [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 11.9 [/TD] [TD] fl [/TD] [TD] 9 - 17 [/TD] [TD] calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] MPV [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 10.4 [/TD] [TD] fl [/TD] [TD] 9.40 - 12.40 [/TD] [TD] calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] P-LCR [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 27.3 [/TD] [TD] % [/TD] [TD] 13 - 43 [/TD] [TD] calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] PCT (tromobokrit) [/TD] [TD] EB [/TD] [TD] 0.21 [/TD] [TD] l/l [/TD] [TD] 0.17 - 0.35 [/TD] [TD] calc. [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Total Cholesterol (Chol.) [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 4.24 [/TD] [TD] mmol/l [/TD] [TD] 3.5 - 5.20 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] LDL-Cholesterol (LDL-C) [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 2.91 [/TD] [TD] mmol/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 3.35 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Trigleciridi (Tg) [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 0.64 [/TD] [TD] mmol/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 1.70 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Albumin [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 45 [/TD] [TD] g/l [/TD] [TD] 35 - 52 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Bilirubin, total [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] [B]45.9[/B] [/TD] [TD] µmol/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 21 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Bilirubin, direct [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] [B]10.7[/B] [/TD] [TD] µmol/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 8.5 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] AsaT [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 15 [/TD] [TD] IU/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 40 [/TD] [TD] IFCC [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] AlaT [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 17 [/TD] [TD] IU/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 41 [/TD] [TD] IFCC [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] GGT [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 11 [/TD] [TD] IU/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 60 [/TD] [TD] IFCC [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Na + [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 136 [/TD] [TD] mmol/l [/TD] [TD] 136 - 145 [/TD] [TD] ISE [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Cl - [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 99 [/TD] [TD] mmol/l [/TD] [TD] 98 - 107 [/TD] [TD] ISE [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Calcium [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 2.3 [/TD] [TD] mmol/l [/TD] [TD] 2.15 - 2.5 [/TD] [TD] CPC [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Magnesium (Mg) [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 0.75 [/TD] [TD] mmol/l [/TD] [TD] 0.66 - 1.07 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Iron [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] [B]29.5[/B] [/TD] [TD] µmol/l [/TD] [TD] 7.2 - 27.7 [/TD] [TD] PHOT [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] CRP - quantative measurement [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] <1.0 [/TD] [TD] mg/l [/TD] [TD] 0 - 5 [/TD] [TD] TURB [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] PSA [/TD] [TD] S [/TD] [TD] 0.6 [/TD] [TD] ng/ml [/TD] [TD] 0.01 - 1.40 [/TD] [TD] ECLIA [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] My total t might be a bit high(I usually have discovered to feel best at 1200-1300) but still I do not see it as enough reason to change protocol and I think sustanon may be YET TO CLEAR completely. As I have read here somewhere it should take around 5 half lives for a compound to clear, which should mean 10 weeks for sustanon, right? I have bolded the blood markers that cause me a bit concern. About the iron - since I have started a few times IM injections it has been slightly elevated. Last time I checked it was 18. I think when I settle enough time on the protocol it should decline again, hopefully. [USER=13851]@madman[/USER] how dangerous you think such levels of iron can be, I hope temporarily? Also about the bilirubin it is a bit of a mystery. No doctor can tell me exactly why it is elevated, I have consulted a few very experienced specialists about this. My endo that has prescribed me TRT and let me to self manage it thinks I may have some birth defect about clearing bilirubin provided my liver enzymes seem fine, I do not drink, eat healthy, have never used recreational drugs and it has been randomly elevated even before TRT, one time it was 10 times the reference range 4 years ago. As medications Im taking 2x500mg metformin(for appetite control purposes, Im not notably IR except being around 22-24 percent body fat) and 2 x 0.250 mg of cabergoline(due to empty cella syndrome, started before TRT). What do you think can be the reason for this bilirubin [/QUOTE]
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Switching from sustanon to enanthate
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