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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
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switching clinics to get away from test/anastrazole mixture and Gonadorelin
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 204459" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>I'll repeat the standard disclaimer: I've never said that gonadorelin is a practical replacement for hCG. It works for me, but with a complex protocol that most would find difficult to stay with. Another guy has tried it, getting decent quantitative results but poor subjective results. We speculate that enclomiphene was problematic for him because he has less aromatization than I.</p><p></p><p>With that part out of the way, I ask you those questions out of genuine interest, not to win some debate. None of those questions requires any personally identifiable information; nobody's privacy would be violated if you were a little more specific about the possible hazards of gonadorelin. Without additional information the vague statements have less weight than the limited data RMC is putting forth. RMC is making rather concrete claims—that gonadorelin injections are leading to normal LH and FSH, albeit probably transiently. If these are outright fabrications then it would seem to open them to civil or criminal liability.</p><p></p><p>I would absolutely like to see some anecdotes about the RMC gonadorelin protocol. You point out that we're not seeing success stories. But statistically speaking we should be seeing the stories of failure at a higher rate, as these are more commonly what end up in the forums—because guys want help.</p><p></p><p>Of what do you think I should be convinced? Is it that guys should be steered towards hCG rather than gonadorelin? Already there. Is it that gonadorelin isn't working for me? Not happening. Is it that my protocol is unsafe? I'm more concerned about the enclomiphene than the gonadorelin when it comes to long-term use. Is it that RMC's protocol is unsafe? It's not impossible given the large size of the single dose; continuous protocols in the literature max out around 30 mcg 16 times a day. RMC's protocol may be 100 mcg twice a week. So about three times the max known dose. Not outlandish, but I suppose it could cause troubles for some. This is why I'd like to know more about the problems you mention.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 204459, member: 38109"] I'll repeat the standard disclaimer: I've never said that gonadorelin is a practical replacement for hCG. It works for me, but with a complex protocol that most would find difficult to stay with. Another guy has tried it, getting decent quantitative results but poor subjective results. We speculate that enclomiphene was problematic for him because he has less aromatization than I. With that part out of the way, I ask you those questions out of genuine interest, not to win some debate. None of those questions requires any personally identifiable information; nobody's privacy would be violated if you were a little more specific about the possible hazards of gonadorelin. Without additional information the vague statements have less weight than the limited data RMC is putting forth. RMC is making rather concrete claims—that gonadorelin injections are leading to normal LH and FSH, albeit probably transiently. If these are outright fabrications then it would seem to open them to civil or criminal liability. I would absolutely like to see some anecdotes about the RMC gonadorelin protocol. You point out that we're not seeing success stories. But statistically speaking we should be seeing the stories of failure at a higher rate, as these are more commonly what end up in the forums—because guys want help. Of what do you think I should be convinced? Is it that guys should be steered towards hCG rather than gonadorelin? Already there. Is it that gonadorelin isn't working for me? Not happening. Is it that my protocol is unsafe? I'm more concerned about the enclomiphene than the gonadorelin when it comes to long-term use. Is it that RMC's protocol is unsafe? It's not impossible given the large size of the single dose; continuous protocols in the literature max out around 30 mcg 16 times a day. RMC's protocol may be 100 mcg twice a week. So about three times the max known dose. Not outlandish, but I suppose it could cause troubles for some. This is why I'd like to know more about the problems you mention. [/QUOTE]
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