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Testosterone Side Effect Management
Struggling with my TRT ..advice or insight plz
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<blockquote data-quote="lsr75" data-source="post: 119756" data-attributes="member: 13983"><p>Whats up everyone..</p><p>Its been awhile since i last posted..so i started a new thread..because alot has changed... I will try my best to be clear and i really appreciate any insight..</p><p></p><p>43 yrs</p><p>145 lbs very lean and fit..crossfit type training 4-5 days a week and i eat very clean..</p><p></p><p>Started trt june 2017</p><p>100mg cream plus 250 iu hcg twice a week..never felt good on cream ..hated putting it on everyday...</p><p></p><p>Dec 2017 started Test C injections</p><p>75 mg a week total divided into 2 injections</p><p>250 iu hcg x 2 week..</p><p></p><p>Felt like crap on this dose..lots of sides..dry scalp..eczema..anxiety..just felt crazy..</p><p>Had labs done on..</p><p></p><p>Feb 16 2018</p><p>Protocol 75mg test C + 250iu hcg x 2 week</p><p>Labs.</p><p>Estradiol. 115 pmol/L. Range. 19.7 - 242</p><p>Test. 41.6 nmol\L. Range. 8.4 - 28.7</p><p></p><p>Test was very high..i was excited cause i though i found the problem..</p><p>So i dropped my T dose from 75mg a week to 60mg a week..</p><p>After dropping my dose some of the sides got better but not all..after 6 weeks i had labs done again.</p><p></p><p>March 29th 2018</p><p>Protocol. 60mg test C a week + 250iu hcg x2 week.</p><p>Labs.</p><p>Estradiol. 107 pmol\L. Range 40 - 162</p><p>Shbg. 52.6 nmol\L. Range. 13.5 - 71</p><p>Total T. 32.2 nmol\L. Range. 8 - 32</p><p>Bio T. 5.49 nmol\L. Range. 2.5 - 10</p><p></p><p>Once again my total T is very high even thou i am on a very low dose...so i dropped my dose to and this brings me to where i am now...</p><p></p><p>My current Protocol...</p><p>50mg test C a week divided into 2 injections and 250iu hcg x 2 a week..</p><p></p><p>Alot of the sides have cleared up..my scalp is good again ..eczema is gone.. I have alot of energy and my recovery from training is great..but thats about where the benifits stop..</p><p>Negative sides are:</p><p>Hard to eat...</p><p>Kinda hyper..maniac..anxiety..</p><p></p><p>Testicles have gotten much smaller even on hcg..</p><p></p><p>Morining wood comes and goes..libido comes and goes...erections are hard but small..very weird..</p><p></p><p>I have good energy but very moody..edgy..not social at all..</p><p></p><p>So at this point i am kinda lost... </p><p>Could my dose still be to high ? Everytime i ve lowered it .. The sides have gotten less..maybe i should drop to 40mg a week? But that seems so low?</p><p></p><p>What to do about the hcg? I ve tried 100 iu daily..i felt nothing.. 150 iu daily and felt nothing... 250iu 2 x week..nothing... I mean i feel it..it jacks up my T forsure..but my balls are getting smaller and i dont have any well being like everyone says..maybe it boosts my libido a bit but i also feel it jacks up my anxiety..</p><p>One thing is i read Dr John say to inject hcg the day before your T shoot.. I have always done same day...can that make a big difference?</p><p></p><p>I feel like i am only gonna give this a few more months at most...i cant take the ups and downs anymore...</p><p></p><p>My next steps..</p><p>Stop the hcg for a few weeks and see if anything gets better or worse..</p><p></p><p>After that.. Try higher hcg doses 400- 500iu twice a week ..this time the day before injection...why?.. Cause Dr Saya has said he feels guys with atrophy need higher doses... But i might drop my T injection a bit as to compensate for the increase in HCG..</p><p></p><p>After that it will be clomid for me and hope for the best...this is turing out to be a nightmare..</p><p></p><p>Any insight would me much appreciated.. I hope its not to confusing of a read..</p><p></p><p>Thx all</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lsr75, post: 119756, member: 13983"] Whats up everyone.. Its been awhile since i last posted..so i started a new thread..because alot has changed... I will try my best to be clear and i really appreciate any insight.. 43 yrs 145 lbs very lean and fit..crossfit type training 4-5 days a week and i eat very clean.. Started trt june 2017 100mg cream plus 250 iu hcg twice a week..never felt good on cream ..hated putting it on everyday... Dec 2017 started Test C injections 75 mg a week total divided into 2 injections 250 iu hcg x 2 week.. Felt like crap on this dose..lots of sides..dry scalp..eczema..anxiety..just felt crazy.. Had labs done on.. Feb 16 2018 Protocol 75mg test C + 250iu hcg x 2 week Labs. Estradiol. 115 pmol/L. Range. 19.7 - 242 Test. 41.6 nmol\L. Range. 8.4 - 28.7 Test was very high..i was excited cause i though i found the problem.. So i dropped my T dose from 75mg a week to 60mg a week.. After dropping my dose some of the sides got better but not all..after 6 weeks i had labs done again. March 29th 2018 Protocol. 60mg test C a week + 250iu hcg x2 week. Labs. Estradiol. 107 pmol\L. Range 40 - 162 Shbg. 52.6 nmol\L. Range. 13.5 - 71 Total T. 32.2 nmol\L. Range. 8 - 32 Bio T. 5.49 nmol\L. Range. 2.5 - 10 Once again my total T is very high even thou i am on a very low dose...so i dropped my dose to and this brings me to where i am now... My current Protocol... 50mg test C a week divided into 2 injections and 250iu hcg x 2 a week.. Alot of the sides have cleared up..my scalp is good again ..eczema is gone.. I have alot of energy and my recovery from training is great..but thats about where the benifits stop.. Negative sides are: Hard to eat... Kinda hyper..maniac..anxiety.. Testicles have gotten much smaller even on hcg.. Morining wood comes and goes..libido comes and goes...erections are hard but small..very weird.. I have good energy but very moody..edgy..not social at all.. So at this point i am kinda lost... Could my dose still be to high ? Everytime i ve lowered it .. The sides have gotten less..maybe i should drop to 40mg a week? But that seems so low? What to do about the hcg? I ve tried 100 iu daily..i felt nothing.. 150 iu daily and felt nothing... 250iu 2 x week..nothing... I mean i feel it..it jacks up my T forsure..but my balls are getting smaller and i dont have any well being like everyone says..maybe it boosts my libido a bit but i also feel it jacks up my anxiety.. One thing is i read Dr John say to inject hcg the day before your T shoot.. I have always done same day...can that make a big difference? I feel like i am only gonna give this a few more months at most...i cant take the ups and downs anymore... My next steps.. Stop the hcg for a few weeks and see if anything gets better or worse.. After that.. Try higher hcg doses 400- 500iu twice a week ..this time the day before injection...why?.. Cause Dr Saya has said he feels guys with atrophy need higher doses... But i might drop my T injection a bit as to compensate for the increase in HCG.. After that it will be clomid for me and hope for the best...this is turing out to be a nightmare.. Any insight would me much appreciated.. I hope its not to confusing of a read.. Thx all [/QUOTE]
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