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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 107923" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>What low t symptoms were you experiencing pre-trt?</p><p></p><p>Do have pre-trt labs to post.....you only stated total t which is only part of the overall picture as free t is more important as it is the active fraction?</p><p></p><p>What is your shbg as it is critical and will dictate your injection frequency?</p><p></p><p>What was your e2 (sensitive assay) and were your experiencing any high e2 symptoms pre-trt along with elevated e2 on lab work?</p><p></p><p>The so called knowledgeable doctor treating you started you on a extremely high dose for trt and it will more than likely raise your testosterone levels way too high over the top end of the physiological range as most mens testosterone levels would be well into the supra-physiological range using 200mg/week and your e2 will more than likely be sky high.....oops could that be why he started you off with an aromatase inhibitor and a very high dose to say the least!</p><p></p><p>200mg/week would put most in the 1800+ ng/dl range and is not a common dose for trt.</p><p></p><p>As far as the hcg 1000iu once weekly is too high a dose.</p><p></p><p>The goal of trt is to relieve/improve low t symptoms in the patient along with overall well being and whether that requires a patient to attain total t/free t levels in the mid-normal physiological range or the high-normal physiological range along with healthy e2 levels and of course minimizing side effects and keeping blood markers in a healthy range.</p><p></p><p>Everyone responds differently to testosterone as some men can achieve good numbers/relief of low t symptoms using lower doses and attaining mid-normal physiological levels where as others need to be in the high/normal physiological range to reap the benefits and even than it comes down to other hormones being in balance especially e2.</p><p></p><p>It is not just about hoping to achieve the highest numbers and you are sorely misinformed if one needs to have their levels 1000+ to benefit from trt.</p><p></p><p>Not only does T--->E2 but it will raise your hemoglobin/hematocrit and can potentially have a negative effect on lipids in high doses.</p><p></p><p>The best piece of advice would be to start low and go slow until you see how your body is going to react to testosterone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 107923, member: 13851"] What low t symptoms were you experiencing pre-trt? Do have pre-trt labs to post.....you only stated total t which is only part of the overall picture as free t is more important as it is the active fraction? What is your shbg as it is critical and will dictate your injection frequency? What was your e2 (sensitive assay) and were your experiencing any high e2 symptoms pre-trt along with elevated e2 on lab work? The so called knowledgeable doctor treating you started you on a extremely high dose for trt and it will more than likely raise your testosterone levels way too high over the top end of the physiological range as most mens testosterone levels would be well into the supra-physiological range using 200mg/week and your e2 will more than likely be sky high.....oops could that be why he started you off with an aromatase inhibitor and a very high dose to say the least! 200mg/week would put most in the 1800+ ng/dl range and is not a common dose for trt. As far as the hcg 1000iu once weekly is too high a dose. The goal of trt is to relieve/improve low t symptoms in the patient along with overall well being and whether that requires a patient to attain total t/free t levels in the mid-normal physiological range or the high-normal physiological range along with healthy e2 levels and of course minimizing side effects and keeping blood markers in a healthy range. Everyone responds differently to testosterone as some men can achieve good numbers/relief of low t symptoms using lower doses and attaining mid-normal physiological levels where as others need to be in the high/normal physiological range to reap the benefits and even than it comes down to other hormones being in balance especially e2. It is not just about hoping to achieve the highest numbers and you are sorely misinformed if one needs to have their levels 1000+ to benefit from trt. Not only does T--->E2 but it will raise your hemoglobin/hematocrit and can potentially have a negative effect on lipids in high doses. The best piece of advice would be to start low and go slow until you see how your body is going to react to testosterone. [/QUOTE]
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