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Testosterone Basics & Questions
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<blockquote data-quote="DS3" data-source="post: 177603" data-attributes="member: 18514"><p>Nothing too crazy on the hormones and dosages. Bloods would be very helpful. Post them if you have them.</p><p></p><p>I will say this at this point in the conversation:</p><p>(1) 200 iu of HCG eod is not enough to raise testosterone significantly. I a more ideal restart protocol would have been to dose HCG at 1000-2000 IU EOD and add in 25 mg Clomid daily. </p><p>(2) [USER=3]@Nelson Vergel[/USER] has presented evidence that gyro typically happens when a. Estrogen is high b. Testosterone is low and c. IGF is high. So, it would make sense that as you came off cycle and ran too low of a dosage of HCG your testosterone was too low. Estrogen rebound would have likely been intense because the decanoate ester in Sustanon stays in your system for a long time. Then, you added in Ibutamoren and later HGH which pushed you IGF higher making your gyno more pronounced.</p><p></p><p>The hotness and high blood pressure are likely from fluid retention and potential high hematocrit (only a blood test can confirm this). I would seriously consider lowering your T dosage to 200 mg weekly, drop your AI because it is terrible for long-term health and estrogen doesn’t cause the symptoms bodybuilders believe it to (when using lower dosages of T). I would also at minimum split the T dosage of 200 mg/weekly into biweekly shots of 100 mg each to minimize fluctuations. To help with water retention I would add in Dandelion root, an effective natural diuretic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DS3, post: 177603, member: 18514"] Nothing too crazy on the hormones and dosages. Bloods would be very helpful. Post them if you have them. I will say this at this point in the conversation: (1) 200 iu of HCG eod is not enough to raise testosterone significantly. I a more ideal restart protocol would have been to dose HCG at 1000-2000 IU EOD and add in 25 mg Clomid daily. (2) [USER=3]@Nelson Vergel[/USER] has presented evidence that gyro typically happens when a. Estrogen is high b. Testosterone is low and c. IGF is high. So, it would make sense that as you came off cycle and ran too low of a dosage of HCG your testosterone was too low. Estrogen rebound would have likely been intense because the decanoate ester in Sustanon stays in your system for a long time. Then, you added in Ibutamoren and later HGH which pushed you IGF higher making your gyno more pronounced. The hotness and high blood pressure are likely from fluid retention and potential high hematocrit (only a blood test can confirm this). I would seriously consider lowering your T dosage to 200 mg weekly, drop your AI because it is terrible for long-term health and estrogen doesn’t cause the symptoms bodybuilders believe it to (when using lower dosages of T). I would also at minimum split the T dosage of 200 mg/weekly into biweekly shots of 100 mg each to minimize fluctuations. To help with water retention I would add in Dandelion root, an effective natural diuretic. [/QUOTE]
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