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Slowly titrating down after long time at 120mg a week
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<blockquote data-quote="johnjohnson" data-source="post: 97326" data-attributes="member: 17685"><p>28 years old, and I've been on TRT since October of 2016. It was a very up and down process in the beginning , and took quite a long time to find the dose that didn't have my estrogen going crazy. I started at 150mg a week and that ended up being way too much so had to work backwards. Ive used A.I and did not like it, and finally settled on 120 mg a week, no aromatase inhibitor, and fell into a comfortable swing. Its been about a year on that protocol, and I've got many benefits so far. Libido still isn't where i want it, but at least it exists, I am able to go hard in the gym and recover, and joints don't hurt like they did when I was lowish T and basically bottomed out on estradiol. I am a lot calmer, more empathetic, relationship improved, and basically back to my old self, except for energy levels. TRT never really helped with energy for me. I will also note there are no thyroid issues, Ive had all the complete tests, not just TSH, and everything is at a good level. I've also completed a sleep study prior to TRT to rule out apnea. </p><p></p><p>Current stats: 5' 8", 170lbs, 16% BF (currently cutting, down from 185) B/S/DL (305/355/445)</p><p></p><p>Current protocol:</p><p>Test cyp: 60mg e 3.5 days ( mon and thurs)</p><p>HCG: 115 IU e 3.5 days(sun and wed) ( I realize the HCG is low compared to what most do, but any higher than that and my e2 goes wild, and I get crazy anxiety, balls are quite full at that dose, am getting sperm test done soon to see how that is)</p><p></p><p>I also take Adderall 15-20 mg 4 to 5 times a week for energy and focus with work and school ( starting med school in 2019). Only been on it for a few months, and take regular tolerance breaks. No caffeine or anything else stimulatory. </p><p></p><p>Latest bloodwork:</p><p></p><p>Total test: 979 (264-916)</p><p>Free test: 32.5 (9.3-26.5)</p><p>Sensitive e2: 49.9 ( 8-35)</p><p></p><p>Current problems: </p><p>Lack of energy( honestly don't think that is testosterone related though, but I guess could be the e2)</p><p>libido still not amazing </p><p>Back and face acne, oily skin in general </p><p>Morning wood disappeared </p><p>Hemoglobin and hematocrit were out of range on last test, gave blood and everything was back in range, retesting soon</p><p></p><p>*These were all happening before adderall was added to the mix. I consume no dairy, wheat, processed foods, etc. I make sure to hit micro and macronutrient targets.</p><p></p><p>I apologize for the long entry, but I know many questions are asked and wanted to address the common ones in the beginning. I have started to slowly titrate my dose down in an effort to lower estradiol down, manage hematocrit better, and hopefully get rid of all the acne on my back. I am ok with being slightly out of range, but I think being at 49.9 at trough is too high. I have switched to .29ml from .3ml e3.5 days. I plan to stay at that dose for 4-5 weeks and then retest to see where I am at. I am curious to see what opinions you guys have on my decision, and whether you would go about it differently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="johnjohnson, post: 97326, member: 17685"] 28 years old, and I've been on TRT since October of 2016. It was a very up and down process in the beginning , and took quite a long time to find the dose that didn't have my estrogen going crazy. I started at 150mg a week and that ended up being way too much so had to work backwards. Ive used A.I and did not like it, and finally settled on 120 mg a week, no aromatase inhibitor, and fell into a comfortable swing. Its been about a year on that protocol, and I've got many benefits so far. Libido still isn't where i want it, but at least it exists, I am able to go hard in the gym and recover, and joints don't hurt like they did when I was lowish T and basically bottomed out on estradiol. I am a lot calmer, more empathetic, relationship improved, and basically back to my old self, except for energy levels. TRT never really helped with energy for me. I will also note there are no thyroid issues, Ive had all the complete tests, not just TSH, and everything is at a good level. I've also completed a sleep study prior to TRT to rule out apnea. Current stats: 5' 8", 170lbs, 16% BF (currently cutting, down from 185) B/S/DL (305/355/445) Current protocol: Test cyp: 60mg e 3.5 days ( mon and thurs) HCG: 115 IU e 3.5 days(sun and wed) ( I realize the HCG is low compared to what most do, but any higher than that and my e2 goes wild, and I get crazy anxiety, balls are quite full at that dose, am getting sperm test done soon to see how that is) I also take Adderall 15-20 mg 4 to 5 times a week for energy and focus with work and school ( starting med school in 2019). Only been on it for a few months, and take regular tolerance breaks. No caffeine or anything else stimulatory. Latest bloodwork: Total test: 979 (264-916) Free test: 32.5 (9.3-26.5) Sensitive e2: 49.9 ( 8-35) Current problems: Lack of energy( honestly don't think that is testosterone related though, but I guess could be the e2) libido still not amazing Back and face acne, oily skin in general Morning wood disappeared Hemoglobin and hematocrit were out of range on last test, gave blood and everything was back in range, retesting soon *These were all happening before adderall was added to the mix. I consume no dairy, wheat, processed foods, etc. I make sure to hit micro and macronutrient targets. I apologize for the long entry, but I know many questions are asked and wanted to address the common ones in the beginning. I have started to slowly titrate my dose down in an effort to lower estradiol down, manage hematocrit better, and hopefully get rid of all the acne on my back. I am ok with being slightly out of range, but I think being at 49.9 at trough is too high. I have switched to .29ml from .3ml e3.5 days. I plan to stay at that dose for 4-5 weeks and then retest to see where I am at. I am curious to see what opinions you guys have on my decision, and whether you would go about it differently. [/QUOTE]
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