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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
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Should We Be Managing Estradiol and Hematocrit in Men on Testosterone Replacement?
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<blockquote data-quote="trt1" data-source="post: 75390" data-attributes="member: 15719"><p><strong>E2 monitoring is essential</strong></p><p></p><p>Everyone is different. I have been on trt for about 10 months. So many of those anti aging doctors start you off at extremely high doses (Prime Body and Royal Men's) 200 mg of cypionate a week which I would never go back to! They also have you inject with large needles into your thigh that are absolutely necessary.</p><p></p><p> High hematocrit feels horrible, like you are about to have a heart attack. What feels even worse is low ferritin, mine tested at 29 on a scale of 30-300 after 3 phlebotomies within the course of 2 months to bring down hematocrit that was +50. I have found out that the side effects were too severe for a younger guy (36yrs) with low T around 400-500 before I started. </p><p></p><p> I am now following a protocol similar to Nelson's 50 mg every 3.5 days with a painless shoulder injection with a 27 gauge insulin needle, I also use about 250 units of HCG twice a week. </p><p></p><p>Unfortunately for me if I don't use any AI my estrogen gets too high and my libido and erections disappears. Also if it gets too low my libido and erections disappear. </p><p></p><p> I have done so many blood work ups I pretty much can guess my e2 levels within 10. I take minor doses of an ai at 100 mg cyp a week. Around .05-.2 mg a week. </p><p></p><p>When my e2 is around 20 i feel the best. I can last much longer in bed as well. around 30 my **** becomes soft during intercourse and I cannot last long at all in bed. Around 10 I can have sex for a hour if I want but the orgasm almost doesn't exist and its impossible to get aroused. </p><p></p><p> When I hear these doctors argue about how e2 is irrelevant I feel like they are close minded because I have the personal experience and + 10 lab records over the course of a year and daily spreadsheet entries with my symptoms to confirm how e2 needs to be dialed in. </p><p></p><p> It is so easy to crash your e on an AI though. Now I use my libido and erection strength as a guide to my e levels, I really don't need to test it anymore. My libido levels are much higher on 100 mg cypionate than it ever was on 200. In my opinion as long as my test is above 600 I feel fine. No need to go over 1000 unless you have no negative symptoms then hell aim as high as you want.</p><p></p><p>Interesting to read about the compounded cream, perhaps the daily dosing really does prevent too much from over aromatizing, or that method of delivery just affects the body differently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trt1, post: 75390, member: 15719"] [b]E2 monitoring is essential[/b] Everyone is different. I have been on trt for about 10 months. So many of those anti aging doctors start you off at extremely high doses (Prime Body and Royal Men's) 200 mg of cypionate a week which I would never go back to! They also have you inject with large needles into your thigh that are absolutely necessary. High hematocrit feels horrible, like you are about to have a heart attack. What feels even worse is low ferritin, mine tested at 29 on a scale of 30-300 after 3 phlebotomies within the course of 2 months to bring down hematocrit that was +50. I have found out that the side effects were too severe for a younger guy (36yrs) with low T around 400-500 before I started. I am now following a protocol similar to Nelson's 50 mg every 3.5 days with a painless shoulder injection with a 27 gauge insulin needle, I also use about 250 units of HCG twice a week. Unfortunately for me if I don't use any AI my estrogen gets too high and my libido and erections disappears. Also if it gets too low my libido and erections disappear. I have done so many blood work ups I pretty much can guess my e2 levels within 10. I take minor doses of an ai at 100 mg cyp a week. Around .05-.2 mg a week. When my e2 is around 20 i feel the best. I can last much longer in bed as well. around 30 my **** becomes soft during intercourse and I cannot last long at all in bed. Around 10 I can have sex for a hour if I want but the orgasm almost doesn't exist and its impossible to get aroused. When I hear these doctors argue about how e2 is irrelevant I feel like they are close minded because I have the personal experience and + 10 lab records over the course of a year and daily spreadsheet entries with my symptoms to confirm how e2 needs to be dialed in. It is so easy to crash your e on an AI though. Now I use my libido and erection strength as a guide to my e levels, I really don't need to test it anymore. My libido levels are much higher on 100 mg cypionate than it ever was on 200. In my opinion as long as my test is above 600 I feel fine. No need to go over 1000 unless you have no negative symptoms then hell aim as high as you want. Interesting to read about the compounded cream, perhaps the daily dosing really does prevent too much from over aromatizing, or that method of delivery just affects the body differently. [/QUOTE]
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