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Shallow Testosterone IM versus SubQ Injections - Lab Results
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 211316" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Minus using/relying upon the piss poor known to be inaccurate assays especially when it comes to free testosterone.....most definitely!</p><p></p><p>It's all about balance he says let alone coming from a guy who still uses/relies upon inaccurate assays even when using ND.....who knew?</p><p></p><p>If it were only so simple.....LOL!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>My takeaway on the IM vs SUB-q TRIAL:</strong></p><p></p><p>As you and many that have been on the forum long enough should very well know when comparing labs:</p><p></p><p><strong>1. <em>The protocol needs to be kept the same (ester/dose T/injection frequency)</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>2</strong>. <strong><em>4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize (TC/TE) before getting blood work done (6 weeks)</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>3.</strong> <strong><em>Testing is done at the true trough</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>4.</strong> <strong><em>Using the same lab</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>5.</strong> <strong><em>Using the same assays (most accurate) TT/e2 (LC-MS/MS) and FT (Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration)</em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>6.</strong> <strong><em>Each protocol needs to be given 12 weeks</em></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then and only then can you make a true comparison between injecting IM vs SUB-Q!</p><p></p><p>You were<strong> <em>on point from 1-4</em></strong> but <strong><em>out to lunch on 5</em> </strong>especially when it comes to FT and <strong><em>bailed out on 6.</em></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 211316, member: 13851"] Minus using/relying upon the piss poor known to be inaccurate assays especially when it comes to free testosterone.....most definitely! It's all about balance he says let alone coming from a guy who still uses/relies upon inaccurate assays even when using ND.....who knew? If it were only so simple.....LOL! [B]My takeaway on the IM vs SUB-q TRIAL:[/B] As you and many that have been on the forum long enough should very well know when comparing labs: [B]1. [I]The protocol needs to be kept the same (ester/dose T/injection frequency)[/I] 2[/B]. [B][I]4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize (TC/TE) before getting blood work done (6 weeks)[/I] 3.[/B] [B][I]Testing is done at the true trough[/I] 4.[/B] [B][I]Using the same lab[/I] 5.[/B] [B][I]Using the same assays (most accurate) TT/e2 (LC-MS/MS) and FT (Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration)[/I] 6.[/B] [B][I]Each protocol needs to be given 12 weeks[/I][/B] Then and only then can you make a true comparison between injecting IM vs SUB-Q! You were[B] [I]on point from 1-4[/I][/B] but [B][I]out to lunch on 5[/I] [/B]especially when it comes to FT and [B][I]bailed out on 6.[/I][/B] [/QUOTE]
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