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Shallow Testosterone IM versus SubQ Injections - Lab Results
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<blockquote data-quote="MarkM" data-source="post: 211281"><p>[USER=13851]@madman[/USER] Thank you for your input. I'm going to respectfully disagree with you a bit on the testosterone testing. I did state that I did not use the LC/MS/MS and the Ultrafiltration and why I did not. I chose to use the same assay as I had previous used for my study and not muddy the waters. </p><p></p><p>Back in 2018 using both the LC/S/MS and Ultrafiltration I had errors from the lab showing my Total T at 479 and Free T at 10.6 using the same protocol I am using today on shallow IM. Obviously using this most accurate method in this case did not work. I spoke to the lab and they agreed that those numbers did not look accurate based on my previous labs and they re-did the lab work at no cost to me one week later. </p><p></p><p>On the second set of labs the Total T was 979 and the Free T was 26.7. Everything was the same even the and I even took the labs the same time in the morning....7:30am. </p><p></p><p>So, errors happened even using the most accurate assays. Like you stated, the same assays should be used and that I did. It would not be a fair comparison had I not used the same assays and to me, would have been a waste of time. Now, had it been a test that was life dependent, I would have definitely used the most accurate method but we are just talking about testosterone which I have probably tested well over 50 times. </p><p></p><p>I have a home blood pressure machine and a home Hb/HCT monitor. I admit that these may not be as accurate as a device at a medical lab. But I still take my blood pressure every day and test my HCT/Hb once a month. I figure that while they might be off somewhat it gives me an idea of where I sit and, if off, likely consistently off. I don't forego monitoring them at home because the device being used is not the highest medical grade.</p><p></p><p>So, while you feel I was "<strong><em>out to lunch"</em></strong>, it was a good lunch and I enjoyed it. </p><p></p><p>As always your input is much <strong>appreciated</strong>. Your knowledge is second to none. </p><p></p><p>Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MarkM, post: 211281"] [USER=13851]@madman[/USER] Thank you for your input. I'm going to respectfully disagree with you a bit on the testosterone testing. I did state that I did not use the LC/MS/MS and the Ultrafiltration and why I did not. I chose to use the same assay as I had previous used for my study and not muddy the waters. Back in 2018 using both the LC/S/MS and Ultrafiltration I had errors from the lab showing my Total T at 479 and Free T at 10.6 using the same protocol I am using today on shallow IM. Obviously using this most accurate method in this case did not work. I spoke to the lab and they agreed that those numbers did not look accurate based on my previous labs and they re-did the lab work at no cost to me one week later. On the second set of labs the Total T was 979 and the Free T was 26.7. Everything was the same even the and I even took the labs the same time in the morning....7:30am. So, errors happened even using the most accurate assays. Like you stated, the same assays should be used and that I did. It would not be a fair comparison had I not used the same assays and to me, would have been a waste of time. Now, had it been a test that was life dependent, I would have definitely used the most accurate method but we are just talking about testosterone which I have probably tested well over 50 times. I have a home blood pressure machine and a home Hb/HCT monitor. I admit that these may not be as accurate as a device at a medical lab. But I still take my blood pressure every day and test my HCT/Hb once a month. I figure that while they might be off somewhat it gives me an idea of where I sit and, if off, likely consistently off. I don't forego monitoring them at home because the device being used is not the highest medical grade. So, while you feel I was "[B][I]out to lunch"[/I][/B], it was a good lunch and I enjoyed it. As always your input is much [B]appreciated[/B]. Your knowledge is second to none. Mark [/QUOTE]
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