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<blockquote data-quote="drewnLA" data-source="post: 159668" data-attributes="member: 39459"><p>Dear Madman, I am grateful that someone at last responded to my question. </p><p></p><p>When I feel out a new dr, using the helpful HCG dr list on the site, shall I simply phone up and ask if they are indeed sympathetic to TRT for "normal" males in early 60's perhaps? Or shall I even ask if they are aware of the Excelmale site and that someone suggested they are a helpful dr. on this site?</p><p></p><p>More background. *Something else* happened between my testing on the 2 pumps/nite protocol and my testing on the 1 pump/nite. I retired (early) and devoted myself in true OCD fashion--which comes naturally--to an intermittent fasting and Keto diet regimen, starting in May 1, 2019. By the time of my latest hormone blood draw testing, June 28, I had lost inches and lbs, including modestly some muscle but-- most importantly-- visceral fat. (So the new diet was followed simult. with continuing the 1 pump/nite TRT regimen started in Jan. 2019)</p><p></p><p>THEN: My numbers in the OLD pre-Keto/double pump era tended to around 650 to 800 ng/dL for testosterone. Estradiol, meanwhile, had been out in the stratosphere, around 80 or higher, for more than a decade previous. My old Kaiser endocr MD had never tested for free T, so I don't know about that number... (Also, I recite Kaiser #'s from memory; I have them in paper only *somewhere*). I took exemestane and the cheaper anastrozole twice per week for the elevated e, for years.</p><p></p><p>MORE RECENT: My reaction to the test results in the post-Keto/single pump new era was initially that "my results must've got mixed up with someone else's in the lab". The estradiol was slightly below ideal, 18 (where < 39 pg/mL is considered normal) for the first time ever... And my testosterone, despite the halving of my gel applications, showed a slightly upward value, to 920 ng/dL. The free T value was 58.3 (for which I've no historical contrast due to Kaiser deficiencies).</p><p></p><p>So I remain astounded that a little change in body composition made a huge difference in hormones. I believe I understand that visceral fat has a role in generating estradiol in men. Didn't know T could "naturally" improve due to fat loss though...</p><p></p><p>One could get a fluke-ish set of blood results, of course, right? And maybe it would be good to get new results now that I've moderated the miracle diet a bit. </p><p></p><p> ( I have ENJOYED coming off exemestane and anastrozole. Bad side effects all along. I abandoned these oral RX's once I got the late June test results.)</p><p></p><p>Is there another thread--or formal study-- I should read now that I'm SWERVING OFF into a new sub-topic?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drewnLA, post: 159668, member: 39459"] Dear Madman, I am grateful that someone at last responded to my question. When I feel out a new dr, using the helpful HCG dr list on the site, shall I simply phone up and ask if they are indeed sympathetic to TRT for "normal" males in early 60's perhaps? Or shall I even ask if they are aware of the Excelmale site and that someone suggested they are a helpful dr. on this site? More background. *Something else* happened between my testing on the 2 pumps/nite protocol and my testing on the 1 pump/nite. I retired (early) and devoted myself in true OCD fashion--which comes naturally--to an intermittent fasting and Keto diet regimen, starting in May 1, 2019. By the time of my latest hormone blood draw testing, June 28, I had lost inches and lbs, including modestly some muscle but-- most importantly-- visceral fat. (So the new diet was followed simult. with continuing the 1 pump/nite TRT regimen started in Jan. 2019) THEN: My numbers in the OLD pre-Keto/double pump era tended to around 650 to 800 ng/dL for testosterone. Estradiol, meanwhile, had been out in the stratosphere, around 80 or higher, for more than a decade previous. My old Kaiser endocr MD had never tested for free T, so I don't know about that number... (Also, I recite Kaiser #'s from memory; I have them in paper only *somewhere*). I took exemestane and the cheaper anastrozole twice per week for the elevated e, for years. MORE RECENT: My reaction to the test results in the post-Keto/single pump new era was initially that "my results must've got mixed up with someone else's in the lab". The estradiol was slightly below ideal, 18 (where < 39 pg/mL is considered normal) for the first time ever... And my testosterone, despite the halving of my gel applications, showed a slightly upward value, to 920 ng/dL. The free T value was 58.3 (for which I've no historical contrast due to Kaiser deficiencies). So I remain astounded that a little change in body composition made a huge difference in hormones. I believe I understand that visceral fat has a role in generating estradiol in men. Didn't know T could "naturally" improve due to fat loss though... One could get a fluke-ish set of blood results, of course, right? And maybe it would be good to get new results now that I've moderated the miracle diet a bit. ( I have ENJOYED coming off exemestane and anastrozole. Bad side effects all along. I abandoned these oral RX's once I got the late June test results.) Is there another thread--or formal study-- I should read now that I'm SWERVING OFF into a new sub-topic? [/QUOTE]
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