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Question: Pharmaceutically restimulating the hormonal axis
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<blockquote data-quote="Deno" data-source="post: 174449" data-attributes="member: 38086"><p><strong>Follow-up!</strong></p><p></p><p>First, thanks to the forum members for your support. If it wasn't for everyone that responded to this thread, I wouldn't have felt as informed and aware of what steps to take next, to get this done. It might seem like forever - I started posting January of 2019 - it took that long to get economically situated and recovered enough, so that i could work to pay for these expensive therapies. Therapies that insurance, naturally doesn't pay for - because it's a scam.</p><p></p><p>The previous lab results were from January, 2020-01-21. Testosterone was 418. See posted above.</p><p>The following are the lab results from March: 2020-03-12. Testosterone was 673.</p><p>...</p><p>January's labs were followed by treatment with:</p><p>- 12.5mg/d enclomiphene citrate, <u>changed within 2 weeks to 25mg/d</u>, that being 25mg/d at minimum 10 days prior to the next (3-12-2020) blood draw.</p><p>- Anastrozole 0.125mg 2-3/w, &</p><p>- Vitamins D3/K2 10k units, Magnesium bisglycinate 400mg/d, Zinc 15mg/d, Triple Boron 9-20mg/d, DHEA 75mg/d &</p><p>- I2 (iodine) 50-100mg/d, Selenium 100mcg/d &</p><p>- Sardines, wild caught in olive oil, 1x tin nearly daily for lunch (M-F)</p><p></p><p><strong>2020-03-12 LABS Free Testosterone 11.9, total 673</strong>, DHEA-S not taken, SHGB 39.3, IGF-1 86, IGF-BP3 not taken, Estradiol 30.4, LH 10</p><p>Followed by treatment with (added to prior list of daily supplements)</p><p>- Red light therapy 5min/d, Ashwangandha KSM-66 600mg/d, Jarrow B-Right Complex 1x/d </p><p></p><p>Immediately after those March labs came back, on about Friday of the same week, on that Sunday, the 15th of March, I ordered more enclomiphene citrate, as I had maybe 6 capsules of 12.5mg remaining. Keep in mind it takes the one pharmacy available, in all of the states, that compounds it, about a week to fill the order, then it has to be shipped. I had been working, in order to be able to pay for my medication, doctor's examinations and labs, as insurance pays for nothing that actually makes you healthy. I had enough energy to work, sleep and repeat. It was a 40 hour a week job. With driving, preparing, I was up at 2AM (or earlier), and finished at 1330; got home around 1430.</p><p></p><p> I quit last Tuesday, the 17th of March, having started in the beginning of December, about 4 months. Part of the reason for no updates on this forum, was I was too exhausted with such a low testosterone count, and years of that. And Clownworld is meh.</p><p></p><p>So I would say I had a Testosterone of 673, for about 3 weeks, while i was on 25mg/day of Enclomiphene Citrate. The IGF-1 being low, at 86, was causing, or related to causing, poor quality sleep, and a combined side effect of my situation and the treatment. In order to raise it, <u>ibutamoren was suggested, a peptide apparently, at 25mg/day before sleep.</u> The price through their pharmacy was over $400 for 90 days, way over my pay grade, especially given I had just quit. I had only been making $16.50 an hour; in real world wages, quite a drop from the '70's, not enough to support a family on, or pay for my medical bills. <em>[hence making fun of companies that say they are 'family companies', when they don't pay enough to support yourself properly, let alone a family].</em></p><p></p><p>Looking up Ibutamoren, I see it's a peptide. Also called MK 677, and available for less than $100 for a 30 day supply. So, less than $300 for 90 days. Still pricey but meh. Possibly 'ipamorelin' is a substitute... or a different name for the same thing? I'm not sure. I'm looking around. <a href="https://www.nfsmi.org/mk-677-ibutamoren/" target="_blank">MK-677 Reviews (Ibutamoren): Nutrobal MK 677 Working, Pros & Cons</a></p><p></p><p><strong>So, where I'm at</strong>: I'm unemployed at the moment. I'm not taking my medication cause I've run out. I've got some money saved for different projects, that needed to be done, and some money saved for medical. I've already paid the $200 for 100 capsules of 12.5mg of enclomiphene, and now have the additional info on the MK 677. So I'm going to have to see about getting some of that, if you have suggestions, and I don't know how long I'm going to have to be on the enclomiphene for.</p><p></p><p>Regards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deno, post: 174449, member: 38086"] [B]Follow-up![/B] First, thanks to the forum members for your support. If it wasn't for everyone that responded to this thread, I wouldn't have felt as informed and aware of what steps to take next, to get this done. It might seem like forever - I started posting January of 2019 - it took that long to get economically situated and recovered enough, so that i could work to pay for these expensive therapies. Therapies that insurance, naturally doesn't pay for - because it's a scam. [B][/B] The previous lab results were from January, 2020-01-21. Testosterone was 418. See posted above. The following are the lab results from March: 2020-03-12. Testosterone was 673. ... January's labs were followed by treatment with: - 12.5mg/d enclomiphene citrate, [U]changed within 2 weeks to 25mg/d[/U], that being 25mg/d at minimum 10 days prior to the next (3-12-2020) blood draw. - Anastrozole 0.125mg 2-3/w, & - Vitamins D3/K2 10k units, Magnesium bisglycinate 400mg/d, Zinc 15mg/d, Triple Boron 9-20mg/d, DHEA 75mg/d & - I2 (iodine) 50-100mg/d, Selenium 100mcg/d & - Sardines, wild caught in olive oil, 1x tin nearly daily for lunch (M-F) [B]2020-03-12 LABS Free Testosterone 11.9, total 673[/B], DHEA-S not taken, SHGB 39.3, IGF-1 86, IGF-BP3 not taken, Estradiol 30.4, LH 10 Followed by treatment with (added to prior list of daily supplements) - Red light therapy 5min/d, Ashwangandha KSM-66 600mg/d, Jarrow B-Right Complex 1x/d Immediately after those March labs came back, on about Friday of the same week, on that Sunday, the 15th of March, I ordered more enclomiphene citrate, as I had maybe 6 capsules of 12.5mg remaining. Keep in mind it takes the one pharmacy available, in all of the states, that compounds it, about a week to fill the order, then it has to be shipped. I had been working, in order to be able to pay for my medication, doctor's examinations and labs, as insurance pays for nothing that actually makes you healthy. I had enough energy to work, sleep and repeat. It was a 40 hour a week job. With driving, preparing, I was up at 2AM (or earlier), and finished at 1330; got home around 1430. I quit last Tuesday, the 17th of March, having started in the beginning of December, about 4 months. Part of the reason for no updates on this forum, was I was too exhausted with such a low testosterone count, and years of that. And Clownworld is meh. So I would say I had a Testosterone of 673, for about 3 weeks, while i was on 25mg/day of Enclomiphene Citrate. The IGF-1 being low, at 86, was causing, or related to causing, poor quality sleep, and a combined side effect of my situation and the treatment. In order to raise it, [U]ibutamoren was suggested, a peptide apparently, at 25mg/day before sleep.[/U] The price through their pharmacy was over $400 for 90 days, way over my pay grade, especially given I had just quit. I had only been making $16.50 an hour; in real world wages, quite a drop from the '70's, not enough to support a family on, or pay for my medical bills. [I][hence making fun of companies that say they are 'family companies', when they don't pay enough to support yourself properly, let alone a family].[/I] Looking up Ibutamoren, I see it's a peptide. Also called MK 677, and available for less than $100 for a 30 day supply. So, less than $300 for 90 days. Still pricey but meh. Possibly 'ipamorelin' is a substitute... or a different name for the same thing? I'm not sure. I'm looking around. [URL="https://www.nfsmi.org/mk-677-ibutamoren/"]MK-677 Reviews (Ibutamoren): Nutrobal MK 677 Working, Pros & Cons[/URL] [B]So, where I'm at[/B]: I'm unemployed at the moment. I'm not taking my medication cause I've run out. I've got some money saved for different projects, that needed to be done, and some money saved for medical. I've already paid the $200 for 100 capsules of 12.5mg of enclomiphene, and now have the additional info on the MK 677. So I'm going to have to see about getting some of that, if you have suggestions, and I don't know how long I'm going to have to be on the enclomiphene for. Regards. [/QUOTE]
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