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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Question: Pharmaceutically restimulating the hormonal axis
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 134700" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>So as far as hormonal therapy goes, you can try Clomid monotherapy again. Not sure how you were doing 20mg EOD, because they only come in 50mg tabs, as far as I know. But, 20mg EOD clearly wasn’t enough to get your levels high enough. So you can try 25mg ED, and see if that works any better.</p><p></p><p>So the other thing is that you don’t need to use tamoxifen or HCG with the clomid. Tamoxifen and clomid do very similar things, I don’t see there being a lot of benefit to using it concurrently with clomid. HCG I know for sure shouldn’t be used with clomid. Clomid stimulates your pituitary to release FSH and LH, which then will stimulate your leydig cells to produce testosterone. HCG, on the other hand, is suppressive and shuts down your natural FSH and LH. HCG is an LH analogue, and bypasses the pituitary and stimulates the leydig cells directly. So it’s not good to take Clomid, which stimulates the pituitary to produce FSH and LH, and also take HCG, which is suppressive, and shuts down FSH and LH from being released from the pituitary. Your telling your body to do two opposite things. So no need to take clomid and HCG together. Choose only one. It’s also a waste of money to do both. HCG is used to stimulate the leydig cells with LH, but if you’re on clomid, the clomid already stimulates the leydig cells with LH. So it’s literally pointless to do both at the same time. </p><p></p><p>But overall, why not just go on TRT? A bottle of testosterone is around $20 with a goodrx coupon, and that would last you months. TRT doesn’t have to be expensive. It can be if you go to an expensive clinic, or are on multiple compounds at one time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 134700, member: 15043"] So as far as hormonal therapy goes, you can try Clomid monotherapy again. Not sure how you were doing 20mg EOD, because they only come in 50mg tabs, as far as I know. But, 20mg EOD clearly wasn’t enough to get your levels high enough. So you can try 25mg ED, and see if that works any better. So the other thing is that you don’t need to use tamoxifen or HCG with the clomid. Tamoxifen and clomid do very similar things, I don’t see there being a lot of benefit to using it concurrently with clomid. HCG I know for sure shouldn’t be used with clomid. Clomid stimulates your pituitary to release FSH and LH, which then will stimulate your leydig cells to produce testosterone. HCG, on the other hand, is suppressive and shuts down your natural FSH and LH. HCG is an LH analogue, and bypasses the pituitary and stimulates the leydig cells directly. So it’s not good to take Clomid, which stimulates the pituitary to produce FSH and LH, and also take HCG, which is suppressive, and shuts down FSH and LH from being released from the pituitary. Your telling your body to do two opposite things. So no need to take clomid and HCG together. Choose only one. It’s also a waste of money to do both. HCG is used to stimulate the leydig cells with LH, but if you’re on clomid, the clomid already stimulates the leydig cells with LH. So it’s literally pointless to do both at the same time. But overall, why not just go on TRT? A bottle of testosterone is around $20 with a goodrx coupon, and that would last you months. TRT doesn’t have to be expensive. It can be if you go to an expensive clinic, or are on multiple compounds at one time. [/QUOTE]
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