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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
When Testosterone Is Not Enough
Question, backfilling the pathways?
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<blockquote data-quote="giants23" data-source="post: 129614" data-attributes="member: 13327"><p>Thanks to you, Vince, Healthman, Dr. Saya and all the rest for such good guidance...I have been on here before...so almost 5yrs ago I got married at 38yrs old...I had been on T therapy for a little over 10yrs...around 200mg every 2-3 weeks...All blood tests, health, libido were perfect. Never knew anything about HCG, Clomid, Arimidex etc...No doctor ever told me T therapy shuts down my own sperm until I met Dr. Saya. Ex's had there tubes tied before meeting me so never knew sperm was low ...I got married just under 5yrs ago..Lovely wife...I got her pregnant WHILE I was on T therapy but she lost it 6 weeks later. She had to have a myomectomy because of a fibroid which was successfully removed and she checks out perfectly... Back then I checked my sperm and it was 0... I got off the t-shot completely in 2014...after 3 months started clomid and HCG after reading on this forum...kept coming back low sperm and motility 4% ....at first 2500 iu per shot I think twice per week( expensive) with clomid...nothing...I hated how I felt no libido..high 200's on T level where before on old protocall was in 700's on Tshot alone...Tshot was so much better. I tried tshot and hcg with clomid and immediately that month my motility and sperm shot to 0..We want kids bad...she just turned 34...we both are our parents last kids to carry on our name...I have gotten 2 women pregnant while on Tshot over the yrs and both were there first and both miscarried..1st one before I met my wife and 2nd one about 7yrs ago...I went two yrs trying HCG and Clomid with a new fertility doctor then saying every HCG shot should be 5000IU...T level went into mid 400's and finally libido was back but nowhere near when i was tshot alone...still low sperm and no improvement on motility...Then fertility clinic said go 6 months straight on nothing...felt horrible with low everything..Then Dr. Saya suggested Clomid alone...that immediately shot my sperm up to 27-32% motility...progress! Seems to have plateaued from there...For me any bit of any injection of Tshot with or without clomid/HCG would sink my Sperm everytime and not maintain it...I wonder if it took so long for my body to come back rather than that first three to six months that everyone says? Another fertility clinic said try anastrozole 1 pill everyday despite me saying I saw on this forum NOBODY takes that much..He insisted it would bring sperm back. First week my wood got rock hard and was a little more libido...By the 2nd week I felt horribly tired...My Estrogen was 32 n after a few weeks of this it shot down to 6. I completely stopped anastrozole...I havent been working out like I did before and wasnt on Tshot with Anastrozole so wasnt sure if I need to take it at all like 1/4 a pill a week or is that only when ur on tshot?? </p><p>I then found this European formula called Fertilsan 3 months ago. I took 3 pills everyday for 3 months and instantly Im at 76% motility and double the sperm! Only fertility treatment that worked...all I ever read on here is clomid would shoot people's T level up to 700 or 800 but it never did me. Or HCG brings sperm back but it also didn't help me 2 years ago...do you think now if I add HCG into the mix with the clomid that I am still on for 3 years would boost me even more? I am worried being on clomid that long and having to go through all of this low libido crap to try and have a kid without doing in-vitro...they say were a perfect candidate based off these tests...I'm about to give up and do invitro but I just had this triple the success on motility... I want to get back on my t-shot... The fertility clinic froze my sperm but I wanted to still try with my wife with this new given success... While on clomid I did one pill every other day and then I went to 50 mg per day and noticed my testosterone level only went up in the high threes so even doubling the dose didn't make much difference. Being on it this long after you take the 5-day break I just didn't know if that was good.... I don't know the next protocol whether to try anastrozole with 1/4 a pill a week with clomid or introduce HCG with clomid again and see if that helps my body now when it didn't earlier or if my body just needed time to catch back up? What other remedy should I try? Go another 3 months on this fertilsan? So frustrating</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="giants23, post: 129614, member: 13327"] Thanks to you, Vince, Healthman, Dr. Saya and all the rest for such good guidance...I have been on here before...so almost 5yrs ago I got married at 38yrs old...I had been on T therapy for a little over 10yrs...around 200mg every 2-3 weeks...All blood tests, health, libido were perfect. Never knew anything about HCG, Clomid, Arimidex etc...No doctor ever told me T therapy shuts down my own sperm until I met Dr. Saya. Ex's had there tubes tied before meeting me so never knew sperm was low ...I got married just under 5yrs ago..Lovely wife...I got her pregnant WHILE I was on T therapy but she lost it 6 weeks later. She had to have a myomectomy because of a fibroid which was successfully removed and she checks out perfectly... Back then I checked my sperm and it was 0... I got off the t-shot completely in 2014...after 3 months started clomid and HCG after reading on this forum...kept coming back low sperm and motility 4% ....at first 2500 iu per shot I think twice per week( expensive) with clomid...nothing...I hated how I felt no libido..high 200's on T level where before on old protocall was in 700's on Tshot alone...Tshot was so much better. I tried tshot and hcg with clomid and immediately that month my motility and sperm shot to 0..We want kids bad...she just turned 34...we both are our parents last kids to carry on our name...I have gotten 2 women pregnant while on Tshot over the yrs and both were there first and both miscarried..1st one before I met my wife and 2nd one about 7yrs ago...I went two yrs trying HCG and Clomid with a new fertility doctor then saying every HCG shot should be 5000IU...T level went into mid 400's and finally libido was back but nowhere near when i was tshot alone...still low sperm and no improvement on motility...Then fertility clinic said go 6 months straight on nothing...felt horrible with low everything..Then Dr. Saya suggested Clomid alone...that immediately shot my sperm up to 27-32% motility...progress! Seems to have plateaued from there...For me any bit of any injection of Tshot with or without clomid/HCG would sink my Sperm everytime and not maintain it...I wonder if it took so long for my body to come back rather than that first three to six months that everyone says? Another fertility clinic said try anastrozole 1 pill everyday despite me saying I saw on this forum NOBODY takes that much..He insisted it would bring sperm back. First week my wood got rock hard and was a little more libido...By the 2nd week I felt horribly tired...My Estrogen was 32 n after a few weeks of this it shot down to 6. I completely stopped anastrozole...I havent been working out like I did before and wasnt on Tshot with Anastrozole so wasnt sure if I need to take it at all like 1/4 a pill a week or is that only when ur on tshot?? I then found this European formula called Fertilsan 3 months ago. I took 3 pills everyday for 3 months and instantly Im at 76% motility and double the sperm! Only fertility treatment that worked...all I ever read on here is clomid would shoot people's T level up to 700 or 800 but it never did me. Or HCG brings sperm back but it also didn't help me 2 years ago...do you think now if I add HCG into the mix with the clomid that I am still on for 3 years would boost me even more? I am worried being on clomid that long and having to go through all of this low libido crap to try and have a kid without doing in-vitro...they say were a perfect candidate based off these tests...I'm about to give up and do invitro but I just had this triple the success on motility... I want to get back on my t-shot... The fertility clinic froze my sperm but I wanted to still try with my wife with this new given success... While on clomid I did one pill every other day and then I went to 50 mg per day and noticed my testosterone level only went up in the high threes so even doubling the dose didn't make much difference. Being on it this long after you take the 5-day break I just didn't know if that was good.... I don't know the next protocol whether to try anastrozole with 1/4 a pill a week with clomid or introduce HCG with clomid again and see if that helps my body now when it didn't earlier or if my body just needed time to catch back up? What other remedy should I try? Go another 3 months on this fertilsan? So frustrating [/QUOTE]
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