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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Pregnenolone and Progesterone for Men: Pharmacokinetics and Studies
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<blockquote data-quote="Nelson Vergel" data-source="post: 202125" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>[ATTACH=full]17752[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Pregnenolone can be administered orally, subcutaneously, intravenously, intranasally, and topically/transdermally. Oral pregnenolone has high metabolism and low bioavailability.28 It is lipophilic and readily crosses the blood brain barrier.</p><p></p><p>There is very limited data on the pharmacokinetics of exogenous pregnenolone. Oral pregnenolone is metabolized in preference to allopregnanolone, rather than other hormones biosynthesized from pregnenolone substrate, such as cortisol or DHEA. One study observed that three hours after oral consumption of a single dose of 400mg of pregnenolone, pregnenolone serum levels increased by approximately 60%. Two hours after this dose, allopregnanolone serum levels tripled. <strong>An earlier study shows that a single oral dose of 175mg of pregnenolone approximately doubled pregnenolone serum levels over the course of four to eight hours.</strong></p><p></p><p>One study observed the effects of exogenous pregnenolone on patients diagnosed with schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder. Participants were given eight weeks of oral pregnenolone--with an escalating fixed-dose approach, where patients took <strong>500mg per day for the last four weeks</strong>. Serum levels of pregnenolone and certain downstream metabolites were measured. <strong>Treatment with oral pregnenolone elevated pregnenolone serum levels fourfold, pregnenolone sulfate serum levels tripled, and allopregnanolone serum levels increased fivefold. Furthermore, treatment with oral pregnenolone elevated progesterone serum levels more than fourfold and DHEAS levels by approximately 16%. In this study, exogenous pregnenolone did not increase serum levels of testosterone, free testosterone, cortisol, DHEA, estradiol, or androstenedione levels.</strong>"</p><p></p><p>Marx CE, Keefe RSE, et al. Proof-of-Concept Trial with the Neurosteroid Pregnenolone Targeting Cognitive and Negative Symptoms in Schizophrenia. Neuropsychopharmacology. 2009 Jul; 34(8): 1885–1903.</p><p></p><p><em>Note from Nelson</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/anabolic-steroids-and-trt-decrease-shbg-dhea-pregnenolone-and-progesterone-in-men.3990/[/URL]</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>If men on TRT have undetectable or very low pregnenolone due to the LH shut down caused by TRT, then a dose close to 100 mg per day may actually increase pregnenolone blood levels one fold.</em></p><p><em><strong>I am particularly interested in pregnenolone's boosting effect on allopregnanolone:</strong></em></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/allopregnanolone-in-mood-disorders.23480/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopregnanolone[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3648625/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]14604[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Pharmacology of pregnenolone and progesterone:</p><p></p><p>"Oral administration of 50 or 100 mg pregnenolone has been found to have minimal or negligible effect on urinary levels of testosterone and testosterone metabolites, including of androsterone, etiocholanolone, 5-androstanediol, androstadienol, and androstenol (and/or their conjugates), and this suggests that only a small amount of pregnenolone is converted into testosterone.[17][18] This is in accordance with findings on the conversion of DHEA into testosterone, in which only 1.5% of an oral dose of DHEA was found to be converted into testosterone.[17] In contrast to the androstanes, 50 or 100 mg oral pregnenolone has been found to significantly and in fact "strongly" increase urinary levels of the progesterone metabolites pregnanediol and pregnanolone (and/or their conjugates), whereas pregnanetriol was unaffected.[17][18] Unlike the case of oral administration, transdermal administration of 30 mg/day pregnenolone cream has not been found to affect urinary levels of metabolites of any other steroids, including of progesterone.[18]"</p><p></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnenolone" target="_blank">Pregnenolone - Wikipedia</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nelson Vergel, post: 202125, member: 3"] [ATTACH type="full" alt="pregnenolone in men per age.jpg"]17752[/ATTACH] "Pregnenolone can be administered orally, subcutaneously, intravenously, intranasally, and topically/transdermally. Oral pregnenolone has high metabolism and low bioavailability.28 It is lipophilic and readily crosses the blood brain barrier. There is very limited data on the pharmacokinetics of exogenous pregnenolone. Oral pregnenolone is metabolized in preference to allopregnanolone, rather than other hormones biosynthesized from pregnenolone substrate, such as cortisol or DHEA. One study observed that three hours after oral consumption of a single dose of 400mg of pregnenolone, pregnenolone serum levels increased by approximately 60%. Two hours after this dose, allopregnanolone serum levels tripled. [B]An earlier study shows that a single oral dose of 175mg of pregnenolone approximately doubled pregnenolone serum levels over the course of four to eight hours.[/B] One study observed the effects of exogenous pregnenolone on patients diagnosed with schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder. Participants were given eight weeks of oral pregnenolone--with an escalating fixed-dose approach, where patients took [B]500mg per day for the last four weeks[/B]. Serum levels of pregnenolone and certain downstream metabolites were measured. [B]Treatment with oral pregnenolone elevated pregnenolone serum levels fourfold, pregnenolone sulfate serum levels tripled, and allopregnanolone serum levels increased fivefold. Furthermore, treatment with oral pregnenolone elevated progesterone serum levels more than fourfold and DHEAS levels by approximately 16%. In this study, exogenous pregnenolone did not increase serum levels of testosterone, free testosterone, cortisol, DHEA, estradiol, or androstenedione levels.[/B]" Marx CE, Keefe RSE, et al. Proof-of-Concept Trial with the Neurosteroid Pregnenolone Targeting Cognitive and Negative Symptoms in Schizophrenia. Neuropsychopharmacology. 2009 Jul; 34(8): 1885–1903. [I]Note from Nelson [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/anabolic-steroids-and-trt-decrease-shbg-dhea-pregnenolone-and-progesterone-in-men.3990/[/URL] If men on TRT have undetectable or very low pregnenolone due to the LH shut down caused by TRT, then a dose close to 100 mg per day may actually increase pregnenolone blood levels one fold. [B]I am particularly interested in pregnenolone's boosting effect on allopregnanolone:[/B][/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/allopregnanolone-in-mood-disorders.23480/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopregnanolone[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3648625/[/URL] [ATTACH type="full" alt="allopregnenolone production from pregnenolone.jpg"]14604[/ATTACH] Pharmacology of pregnenolone and progesterone: "Oral administration of 50 or 100 mg pregnenolone has been found to have minimal or negligible effect on urinary levels of testosterone and testosterone metabolites, including of androsterone, etiocholanolone, 5-androstanediol, androstadienol, and androstenol (and/or their conjugates), and this suggests that only a small amount of pregnenolone is converted into testosterone.[17][18] This is in accordance with findings on the conversion of DHEA into testosterone, in which only 1.5% of an oral dose of DHEA was found to be converted into testosterone.[17] In contrast to the androstanes, 50 or 100 mg oral pregnenolone has been found to significantly and in fact "strongly" increase urinary levels of the progesterone metabolites pregnanediol and pregnanolone (and/or their conjugates), whereas pregnanetriol was unaffected.[17][18] Unlike the case of oral administration, transdermal administration of 30 mg/day pregnenolone cream has not been found to affect urinary levels of metabolites of any other steroids, including of progesterone.[18]" [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnenolone']Pregnenolone - Wikipedia[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Pregnenolone and Progesterone for Men: Pharmacokinetics and Studies
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