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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Pregnenalone and TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="DragonBits" data-source="post: 137727" data-attributes="member: 18023"><p>Well, why I stopped is kind of a longer story. I have been a bit reluctant to post much about it as it might not be a popular subject.</p><p></p><p>Concerning DHEA, I was taking oral DHEA 25 mg a night. I hoped for improved sleep, it didn't seem to happen.</p><p></p><p>Not sure why you think 450 is a perfect level, it's way above the reference range for my age. The reference range Labcorp gave me was 30.9 - 295.6. The reference range medline posted online for a 66 year old was Ages 60 to 69: 42 to 290 µg/dL . Medline says for Ages 20 to 29: 280 to 640 µg/dL is to be expected, so 450 would be in the middle of that. Not sure it's ideal to be in that range, maybe or maybe not.</p><p></p><p>I know from previous experience a long time ago it doesn't take much oral DHEA to increase my blood levels.</p><p></p><p>When I was 43 which was 23 years ago, I took DHEA and got my DHEA-S level to</p><p>6672 ng/ml (800-5600). (Different scale) Again way above reference range, it didn't help then either. I can’t say for sure what dose I was taking back then, I was looking to increase tot T, it didn’t work for that.</p><p></p><p><strong>Besides the lack of any evidence DHEA was helping, I stopped mainly because in 3.5 months my PSA level went from 2.4 > 3.9 then in 1 month to 4.2. I wasn't sure which hormone was causing prostate growth, DHEA or HCG, I was 95% sure it wasn't the testosterone. </strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>While I doubt it was the DHEA causing a problem and I am pretty sure it was the HCG that caused an increase in my prostate and the PSA score. But since my PSA was quickly rising, I didn’t have time to experiment, so I stopped both HCG/DHEA and continued on with testosterone only.</strong></p><p></p><p>I had considered either finasteride or dutasteride to shrink my prostate and lower my PSA level, but since I don’t have any symptoms of BPH, (LUTS), I suspect a doctor wouldn’t want to prescribe those and I am not keen on going that route.</p><p></p><p>So my major focus for the last 3 months has been in shrinking my prostate and reducing my PSA score via supplements. To my surprise, so far I have reduced it by 20% while maintain a level of total T of between 620-1200. I plan to keep this going for another month then stop those supplements, I strongly suspect (hope) whatever my PSA score is in March it will stay stable.</p><p></p><p>I <em>may</em> try DHEA again as I think it is benign and possibly helpful for long term health to have slightly higher levels. </p><p></p><p>But now I will be checking my PSA score more often.</p><p></p><p>But this isn’t really a thread on prostate, it’s on DHEA, so I was thinking of creating a thread on the supplement I was using to reduce my PSA level, I feel good but there are some negatives along with the positives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DragonBits, post: 137727, member: 18023"] Well, why I stopped is kind of a longer story. I have been a bit reluctant to post much about it as it might not be a popular subject. Concerning DHEA, I was taking oral DHEA 25 mg a night. I hoped for improved sleep, it didn't seem to happen. Not sure why you think 450 is a perfect level, it's way above the reference range for my age. The reference range Labcorp gave me was 30.9 - 295.6. The reference range medline posted online for a 66 year old was Ages 60 to 69: 42 to 290 µg/dL . Medline says for Ages 20 to 29: 280 to 640 µg/dL is to be expected, so 450 would be in the middle of that. Not sure it's ideal to be in that range, maybe or maybe not. I know from previous experience a long time ago it doesn't take much oral DHEA to increase my blood levels. When I was 43 which was 23 years ago, I took DHEA and got my DHEA-S level to 6672 ng/ml (800-5600). (Different scale) Again way above reference range, it didn't help then either. I can’t say for sure what dose I was taking back then, I was looking to increase tot T, it didn’t work for that. [B]Besides the lack of any evidence DHEA was helping, I stopped mainly because in 3.5 months my PSA level went from 2.4 > 3.9 then in 1 month to 4.2. I wasn't sure which hormone was causing prostate growth, DHEA or HCG, I was 95% sure it wasn't the testosterone. [/B] [B]While I doubt it was the DHEA causing a problem and I am pretty sure it was the HCG that caused an increase in my prostate and the PSA score. But since my PSA was quickly rising, I didn’t have time to experiment, so I stopped both HCG/DHEA and continued on with testosterone only.[/B] I had considered either finasteride or dutasteride to shrink my prostate and lower my PSA level, but since I don’t have any symptoms of BPH, (LUTS), I suspect a doctor wouldn’t want to prescribe those and I am not keen on going that route. So my major focus for the last 3 months has been in shrinking my prostate and reducing my PSA score via supplements. To my surprise, so far I have reduced it by 20% while maintain a level of total T of between 620-1200. I plan to keep this going for another month then stop those supplements, I strongly suspect (hope) whatever my PSA score is in March it will stay stable. I [I]may[/I] try DHEA again as I think it is benign and possibly helpful for long term health to have slightly higher levels. But now I will be checking my PSA score more often. But this isn’t really a thread on prostate, it’s on DHEA, so I was thinking of creating a thread on the supplement I was using to reduce my PSA level, I feel good but there are some negatives along with the positives. [/QUOTE]
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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Pregnenalone and TRT
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