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<blockquote data-quote="dicotyle" data-source="post: 148882" data-attributes="member: 38854"><p>I'm a 35 year-old with secondary hypo due to chronic illness. My symptoms are ED, fatigue, muscle pain, and low motivation. I hit a major obstacle when I became unable to take an AI due to adverse reactions, I'm now looking for other options.</p><p></p><p>Here's a summary of my treatment:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Clomid, 12.5-50 mg, no ED, stopped due to psychological symptoms</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">t. cypionate 100 mg weekly, ED</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">t. enanthate 50 mg twice weekly, ED</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">e. 50 mg twice weekly with 500 IU HCG, total ED</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">1/16-0.5 mg anastrozole added to #4, felt great, forced to stop due to neuropathy from the AI</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">12-14 mg t. enanthate daily, ED</li> </ol><p>Here's how I look without treatment:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Total T 226-390 (264-916)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Free T 11-12.5 (5-21)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lh 3.4 (1.7-8.6)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FSH 2-2.7 (1.5-12.4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Prolactin 6.1 (4.0-15.2)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">E2 (never tested off treatment)</li> </ul><p>Clomid 12.5 mg E3D, up to 50 mg EOD:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Total T 520-890 (264-916)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Free T 17-25.9 (5-21)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lh 6.8 (1.7-8.6)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FSH 3.2 (1.5-12.4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Prolactin 6.2 (4.0-15.2)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">E2 20.1-20.7 (7.6-42.6)</li> </ul><p>TRT was initiated last December, I settled on 50 mg twice a week with 500 IU hCG; 0.5 mg anastrozole was added due to symptoms of high E2, labs were in the lower 50s. After a week of this combination I felt great, but on the fourth dose of anastrozole I began having neuropathy that worsened with each dose (as low as 1/16 mg). My E2 had not crashed, it was never lower than 14.5, and was 32 (sensitive) the day of one of the reactions.</p><p></p><p>There are <a href="https://journals.lww.com/md-journal/Pages/articleviewer.aspx?year=2019&issue=03290&article=00059&type=Fulltext" target="_blank">case reports</a> of AIs causing autoimmunity. I've had rare autoimmune reactions to medications in the past, so it's likely that I've got bad luck and can't take them. I switched to daily doses of 14 mg for two weeks, which brought my T to 1047; for the six weeks since then I've been on 12 mg.</p><p></p><p>My muscle pain is good on daily dosing, but my sexual function isn't. I've got less sensitivity, difficulty reaching orgasm, more ED, and less libido than after just a week of T+HCG+AI. I don't want to cause primary hypo by staying on a protocol that has only mediocre benefit.</p><p></p><p>What are the chances that I could take Clomid with a low dose of TRT? Theoretically, my HPTA won't be suppressed by about 8 mg of T, and a low dose of Clomid could bring my level just high enough without causing side effects. I'm open to other ideas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dicotyle, post: 148882, member: 38854"] I'm a 35 year-old with secondary hypo due to chronic illness. My symptoms are ED, fatigue, muscle pain, and low motivation. I hit a major obstacle when I became unable to take an AI due to adverse reactions, I'm now looking for other options. Here's a summary of my treatment: [LIST=1] [*]Clomid, 12.5-50 mg, no ED, stopped due to psychological symptoms [*]t. cypionate 100 mg weekly, ED [*]t. enanthate 50 mg twice weekly, ED [*]e. 50 mg twice weekly with 500 IU HCG, total ED [*]1/16-0.5 mg anastrozole added to #4, felt great, forced to stop due to neuropathy from the AI [*]12-14 mg t. enanthate daily, ED [/LIST] Here's how I look without treatment: [LIST] [*]Total T 226-390 (264-916) [*]Free T 11-12.5 (5-21) [*]Lh 3.4 (1.7-8.6) [*]FSH 2-2.7 (1.5-12.4) [*]Prolactin 6.1 (4.0-15.2) [*]E2 (never tested off treatment) [/LIST] Clomid 12.5 mg E3D, up to 50 mg EOD: [LIST] [*]Total T 520-890 (264-916) [*]Free T 17-25.9 (5-21) [*]Lh 6.8 (1.7-8.6) [*]FSH 3.2 (1.5-12.4) [*]Prolactin 6.2 (4.0-15.2) [*]E2 20.1-20.7 (7.6-42.6) [/LIST] TRT was initiated last December, I settled on 50 mg twice a week with 500 IU hCG; 0.5 mg anastrozole was added due to symptoms of high E2, labs were in the lower 50s. After a week of this combination I felt great, but on the fourth dose of anastrozole I began having neuropathy that worsened with each dose (as low as 1/16 mg). My E2 had not crashed, it was never lower than 14.5, and was 32 (sensitive) the day of one of the reactions. There are [URL='https://journals.lww.com/md-journal/Pages/articleviewer.aspx?year=2019&issue=03290&article=00059&type=Fulltext']case reports[/URL] of AIs causing autoimmunity. I've had rare autoimmune reactions to medications in the past, so it's likely that I've got bad luck and can't take them. I switched to daily doses of 14 mg for two weeks, which brought my T to 1047; for the six weeks since then I've been on 12 mg. My muscle pain is good on daily dosing, but my sexual function isn't. I've got less sensitivity, difficulty reaching orgasm, more ED, and less libido than after just a week of T+HCG+AI. I don't want to cause primary hypo by staying on a protocol that has only mediocre benefit. What are the chances that I could take Clomid with a low dose of TRT? Theoretically, my HPTA won't be suppressed by about 8 mg of T, and a low dose of Clomid could bring my level just high enough without causing side effects. I'm open to other ideas. [/QUOTE]
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