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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 246944" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>I don't think my case is a great example for YOUR needs, but in my mind, it does relate to "this situation".</p><p></p><p>160mg of testosterone is more than I have ever taken. I was started on 150mg/week, dosed E3D for starters. This sent my HGB/HCT high along with E2. My testosterone and free testosterone were robust, and above range, close to your results. </p><p></p><p>It was too much.</p><p></p><p>Phlebotomy and lowered dose repeatedly until maintaining ~90mg/week, TT and FT remained supraphysiological. My medical guidance targeted keeping Free T at top of range, and I remained a bit above, in the mid/high 20's. E2 remained too high so I played with microdoses of anastrozole for less than 0.25mg/week, which kept E2 at about 25. It was a pretty happy place, but I suffered from a three day bloat/water retention cycle. I also have taken HCG all along which definitely contributed to the bloat, which moved along with that dosage schedule. Somewhere in there I went to every other day for both T and HCG which smoothed out the 3 day bloat cycle. It evens out when I take less per dose at more frequent intervals, then just remain constantly slightly bloated, but is controversial whether frequent dosing of HCG is as effective for testicular effect. HCG every other day for a total of 800iu/week worked OK for me for a long while</p><p></p><p>Over years, more incremental reductions. Every reduction hurts when adjusting, but once on the new lower level, I am just fine, with no significant side effects like impaired libido. Even at 20mg every other day (70/week), my TT and FT remained at and slightly above top of "normal range", and health wise, I was just fine thank you. I was able to drop the anastrozole.</p><p></p><p>Then some real wild cards: illness, and liver challenge, anemia, transfusional iron overload, then rebound an EPO problem and high hematocrit, and most recently, I needed to try lowering yet again. Otherwise, the only side effect all along which was minor, but present was water retention. </p><p></p><p>The latest change was to a T cyp/prop blend at the equivalent of ~8mg/day including ester. This is the first time in the last 5 years that my T levels have really lived back in normal range, and life is good. I might benefit from just a bit more, but until the hematocrit is fully in control I am very happy staying right here. This is 56mg/week.</p><p></p><p>I find it interesting how men on TRT avoid the concept of reducing dose to achieve normal range rather than fixate on more is better. Typically there is a desire to be big and have big muscles. I get that, but that's not me, my athletic passions require a strong nimble lean body. I started because I was hypogonadal, for general health and fitness, not to look like the hulk. </p><p></p><p>Not saying it will work for you, match your personal goals etc. YMMV. Just food for thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 246944, member: 16042"] I don't think my case is a great example for YOUR needs, but in my mind, it does relate to "this situation". 160mg of testosterone is more than I have ever taken. I was started on 150mg/week, dosed E3D for starters. This sent my HGB/HCT high along with E2. My testosterone and free testosterone were robust, and above range, close to your results. It was too much. Phlebotomy and lowered dose repeatedly until maintaining ~90mg/week, TT and FT remained supraphysiological. My medical guidance targeted keeping Free T at top of range, and I remained a bit above, in the mid/high 20's. E2 remained too high so I played with microdoses of anastrozole for less than 0.25mg/week, which kept E2 at about 25. It was a pretty happy place, but I suffered from a three day bloat/water retention cycle. I also have taken HCG all along which definitely contributed to the bloat, which moved along with that dosage schedule. Somewhere in there I went to every other day for both T and HCG which smoothed out the 3 day bloat cycle. It evens out when I take less per dose at more frequent intervals, then just remain constantly slightly bloated, but is controversial whether frequent dosing of HCG is as effective for testicular effect. HCG every other day for a total of 800iu/week worked OK for me for a long while Over years, more incremental reductions. Every reduction hurts when adjusting, but once on the new lower level, I am just fine, with no significant side effects like impaired libido. Even at 20mg every other day (70/week), my TT and FT remained at and slightly above top of "normal range", and health wise, I was just fine thank you. I was able to drop the anastrozole. Then some real wild cards: illness, and liver challenge, anemia, transfusional iron overload, then rebound an EPO problem and high hematocrit, and most recently, I needed to try lowering yet again. Otherwise, the only side effect all along which was minor, but present was water retention. The latest change was to a T cyp/prop blend at the equivalent of ~8mg/day including ester. This is the first time in the last 5 years that my T levels have really lived back in normal range, and life is good. I might benefit from just a bit more, but until the hematocrit is fully in control I am very happy staying right here. This is 56mg/week. I find it interesting how men on TRT avoid the concept of reducing dose to achieve normal range rather than fixate on more is better. Typically there is a desire to be big and have big muscles. I get that, but that's not me, my athletic passions require a strong nimble lean body. I started because I was hypogonadal, for general health and fitness, not to look like the hulk. Not saying it will work for you, match your personal goals etc. YMMV. Just food for thought. [/QUOTE]
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