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Please help me read my first post-TRT test results
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 236066" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>The downfall of injecting once weekly is that there will be a big difference in the peak--->trough let alone blood levels will not be as stable throughout the week which can easily have a negative impact on energy/mood/libido/erectile function/recovery.</p><p></p><p>Peak T levels will be very high (8-12 hrs) post-injection/during the first few days only to be followed by much lower levels come week's end (trough).</p><p></p><p>Mind you many men will have absurdly high peak levels let alone fairly high trough levels come week's end due to high-dose protocols as many of the dime-a-dozen T-mills have everyone jacked up on 200 mg T/week from the get-go.</p><p></p><p>Although your TT 461 ng/dL may seem low you need to keep in mind that bloodwork was done at trough (lowest point).</p><p></p><p>Would be a given that your peak TT, FT, and estradiol levels will be very high.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects.</p><p></p><p>You would most likely fare better splitting up your weekly dose of 100 mg T and injecting twice weekly (50 mg T every 3.5 days).</p><p></p><p>This will clip the peak---> trough and result in more stable blood levels throughout the week let alone you should easily hit a descent trough TT/FT level.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind when using exogenous esterified T it will take 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize (using TC/TE) due to the ester's half-life.</p><p></p><p>Most would have blood work done 6 weeks in testing at the true trough (lowest point).</p><p></p><p>Although you can test at 4 weeks keep in mind that your levels will be slightly higher if you tested at 6.</p><p></p><p>No big deal.</p><p></p><p>Would not even waste my time checking bioavailable T and if you want to know where your FT level truly sits then you would need to have it tested using the most accurate assays such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration</p><p></p><p>Again would not even compare your pre-trt #s to your current trt #s as you tested at the trough which means your peak TT, FT, and estradiol levels will be much higher let alone you drove your highish SHBG 49.03 nmol/L down to 28.7 nmol/L.</p><p></p><p>You would be much better off splitting your dose and injecting it twice weekly.</p><p></p><p>I would just stick with your current dose and inject 50 mg T every 3.5 days.</p><p></p><p>As you should know you will need to wait another 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize before blood work is done.</p><p></p><p>Always test at the true trough using the most accurate assays TT/estradiol (LC-MS/MS) and FT (Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>My reply from previous threads:</strong></p><p></p><p>Whether using TC or TE it takes 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize due to the ester's half-life.</p><p></p><p>It is common for many to experience ups/downs during the weeks leading up to this as hormones are in flux and the body is trying to adjust to the increasing T levels.</p><p></p><p>Once blood levels have stabilized blood work needs to be done so you can see where your trough TT, FT, and estradiol sit let alone other important blood markers such as RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit.</p><p></p><p>Even once blood levels have stabilized it will take time for the body to adapt to the new set-point and this is the critical time period when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.</p><p></p><p>The first 4-6 weeks can be very misleading!</p><p></p><p>Critical to let everything settle.</p><p></p><p>Need to give the protocol 12 weeks before claiming it was a success or failure.</p><p></p><p>The only way your dose should be increased 6 weeks in is if your trough FT level is too low and you are still suffering from low-t symptoms.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 236066, member: 13851"] The downfall of injecting once weekly is that there will be a big difference in the peak--->trough let alone blood levels will not be as stable throughout the week which can easily have a negative impact on energy/mood/libido/erectile function/recovery. Peak T levels will be very high (8-12 hrs) post-injection/during the first few days only to be followed by much lower levels come week's end (trough). Mind you many men will have absurdly high peak levels let alone fairly high trough levels come week's end due to high-dose protocols as many of the dime-a-dozen T-mills have everyone jacked up on 200 mg T/week from the get-go. Although your TT 461 ng/dL may seem low you need to keep in mind that bloodwork was done at trough (lowest point). Would be a given that your peak TT, FT, and estradiol levels will be very high. Keep in mind that although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects. You would most likely fare better splitting up your weekly dose of 100 mg T and injecting twice weekly (50 mg T every 3.5 days). This will clip the peak---> trough and result in more stable blood levels throughout the week let alone you should easily hit a descent trough TT/FT level. Keep in mind when using exogenous esterified T it will take 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize (using TC/TE) due to the ester's half-life. Most would have blood work done 6 weeks in testing at the true trough (lowest point). Although you can test at 4 weeks keep in mind that your levels will be slightly higher if you tested at 6. No big deal. Would not even waste my time checking bioavailable T and if you want to know where your FT level truly sits then you would need to have it tested using the most accurate assays such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration Again would not even compare your pre-trt #s to your current trt #s as you tested at the trough which means your peak TT, FT, and estradiol levels will be much higher let alone you drove your highish SHBG 49.03 nmol/L down to 28.7 nmol/L. You would be much better off splitting your dose and injecting it twice weekly. I would just stick with your current dose and inject 50 mg T every 3.5 days. As you should know you will need to wait another 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize before blood work is done. Always test at the true trough using the most accurate assays TT/estradiol (LC-MS/MS) and FT (Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration). [B]My reply from previous threads:[/B] Whether using TC or TE it takes 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize due to the ester's half-life. It is common for many to experience ups/downs during the weeks leading up to this as hormones are in flux and the body is trying to adjust to the increasing T levels. Once blood levels have stabilized blood work needs to be done so you can see where your trough TT, FT, and estradiol sit let alone other important blood markers such as RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit. Even once blood levels have stabilized it will take time for the body to adapt to the new set-point and this is the critical time period when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms. The first 4-6 weeks can be very misleading! Critical to let everything settle. Need to give the protocol 12 weeks before claiming it was a success or failure. The only way your dose should be increased 6 weeks in is if your trough FT level is too low and you are still suffering from low-t symptoms. [/QUOTE]
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