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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Perplexing result.. thoughts?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 216175" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>Your recent results are puzzling. That's a lot of variation for having propionate supply less than 20% of the testosterone. My best guess is that the 16-Jan-22 results are incorrect. They seem inconsistent with the earlier measurements. In contrast, the 29-Jul-19 values make more sense as peaks on only propionate.</p><p></p><p>I'm doubtful that a reduction in your testosterone dose by less than ten percent is responsible for your apparent crash. But I won't say it's not possible. Arguably if the enanthate wasn't stabilized then the relative reduction in daily peak testosterone could be much more than 10%.</p><p></p><p>Regarding your extensive test results, do you happen to have more precise injection times? That is, how many hours post-injection are you measuring possible peaks?</p><p></p><p>I don't know if you want to mess with it, but given how little propionate you're on at the moment, I would take advantage of that to try only daily enanathate for long enough to stabilize and get some measurements. I'd measure testosterone and SHBG to get an estimate of free testosterone. The general expectation is for free testosterone to be proportional to dose, barring significant changes in underlying metabolism. If you determine your constant of proportionality then you can get a better sense of what was happening when you were taking only propionate or a blend. It would also be interesting to compare to your EOD enanthate results, which seem low for the dose—perhaps because you didn't hit the true peak. That is, you were averaging 10.8 mg of testosterone per day, yet were seeming to hit serum levels that the average guy would get with more like 7 mg.</p><p></p><p>Longer term I do favor a blend that gives a daily variation in serum levels of up to 25% about the mean. The idea is to have daily peak testosterone hit a modest normal level, while troughs can appear borderline hypogonadal—as seen in healthy young men.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 216175, member: 38109"] Your recent results are puzzling. That's a lot of variation for having propionate supply less than 20% of the testosterone. My best guess is that the 16-Jan-22 results are incorrect. They seem inconsistent with the earlier measurements. In contrast, the 29-Jul-19 values make more sense as peaks on only propionate. I'm doubtful that a reduction in your testosterone dose by less than ten percent is responsible for your apparent crash. But I won't say it's not possible. Arguably if the enanthate wasn't stabilized then the relative reduction in daily peak testosterone could be much more than 10%. Regarding your extensive test results, do you happen to have more precise injection times? That is, how many hours post-injection are you measuring possible peaks? I don't know if you want to mess with it, but given how little propionate you're on at the moment, I would take advantage of that to try only daily enanathate for long enough to stabilize and get some measurements. I'd measure testosterone and SHBG to get an estimate of free testosterone. The general expectation is for free testosterone to be proportional to dose, barring significant changes in underlying metabolism. If you determine your constant of proportionality then you can get a better sense of what was happening when you were taking only propionate or a blend. It would also be interesting to compare to your EOD enanthate results, which seem low for the dose—perhaps because you didn't hit the true peak. That is, you were averaging 10.8 mg of testosterone per day, yet were seeming to hit serum levels that the average guy would get with more like 7 mg. Longer term I do favor a blend that gives a daily variation in serum levels of up to 25% about the mean. The idea is to have daily peak testosterone hit a modest normal level, while troughs can appear borderline hypogonadal—as seen in healthy young men. [/QUOTE]
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